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Flu shots pose no extra risk of pregnancy loss: study

January 18 at 9:44 AM

Flu shots pose no extra risk of pregnancy loss: study

(AFP) – 18 hours ago

WASHINGTON — Pregnant women in Norway who got vaccinated against the swine flu virus that caused the 2009-2010 pandemic showed no increased risk of pregnancy loss, contrary to popular belief, says a study released Thursday.

Pregnant women who came down with the flu did however have increased risk of miscarriage and still birth, said the study carried out in Norway.

Scientists at the US National Institutes of Health and the Norwegian Institute of Public Health published their findings online in the New England Journal of Medicine.

During the H1N1 flu pandemic, Norway urged pregnant women to get vaccinated. But some expectant mothers shied from this after news reports of pregnancy losses after flu shots.

The researchers said their study suggested that influenza infection may increase the risk of fetal loss.

They reached their conclusion by analyzing Norway's well-kept archives of registries and medical records.

The risk of pregnancy loss can be multiplied by a factor of two if a pregnant woman catches the flu, while vaccination reduced this risk.

"Most important is that vaccinations protect pregnant women against influenza illness, which could be harmful for both the mother and the baby," said Allen Wilcox of the NIH, co-author of the study.

What do you think? Are you more likely to get the flu shot now?

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by louzannalady

January 18 at 11:49 AM

7 likes

Oh, so the vax connected to narcolepsy in Finnish children and is no longer allowed in that country? Okay....
And, they say it is safe in Norway? Which shot are they using? I know, most of the shots they allow in the US use ingredients banned by the EU from using in consumer products, so they would be illegal or in some cases criminal in some countries. I am still researching this. I have yet to come across an abstract or this study in full to read, so I am not holding my breath that injecting known carcinogens or mercury into my body is going to magically be good for me or my baby, just because it is in a vaccine!
Here is a list, from the CDC of all the vax's ingredients.
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/b/excipient-table-2.pdf
Here is the first ingredient in the first flu vax listed: beta-Propiolactone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta-Propiolactone
Here is the second ingredient in the same vax: thiomersal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiomersal
Here are current inserts to the different flu vaccines, for your consideration. Just hit Ctrl + F and type "pregnant" and it will take you to the segment on pregnancy. Most have it set up for people to report if there are adverse reactions in pregnancy, because they just don't know for sure if there are any.
http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_fluarix.pdf
http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_flulaval.pdf
http://www.medimmune.com/pdf/products/flumist_pi.pdf
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/UCM123694.pdf
https://www.vaccineshoppe.com/image.cfm?doc_id=12651ℑ_type=product_pdf
by Heather2001

January 18 at 12:58 PM

Yes, this exactly.
Quoting louzannalady:

Oh, so the vax connected to narcolepsy in Finnish children and is no longer allowed in that country? Okay....
And, they say it is safe in Norway? Which shot are they using? I know, most of the shots they allow in the US use ingredients banned by the EU from using in consumer products, so they would be illegal or in some cases criminal in some countries. I am still researching this. I have yet to come across and abstract or this study in full to read, so I am not holding my breath that injecting known carcinogens or mercury into my body is going to magically be good for me or my baby, just because it is a vaccine!
Here is a list, from the CDC of all the vax's ingredients.
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/b/excipient-table-2.pdf
Here is the first ingredient in the first flu vax listed: beta-Propiolactone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta-Propiolactone
Here is the second ingredient in the same vax: thiomersal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiomersal
Here are current inserts to the different flu vaccines, for your consideration. Just hit Ctrl + F and type "pregnant" and it will take you to the segment on pregnancy. Most have it set up for people to report if there are adverse reactions in pregnancy, because they just don't know for sure if there are any.
http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_fluarix.pdf
http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_flulaval.pdf
http://www.medimmune.com/pdf/products/flumist_pi.pdf
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/UCM123694.pdf
https://www.vaccineshoppe.com/image.cfm?doc_id=12651ℑ_type=product_pdf
by livingrlovesong

January 18 at 1:04 PM

1 like

I've gotten the flu shot with all of my kids. (althought I did have the swine flu with my oldest son was born) I will get it with this one. I will trust my DOCTOR over internet research anyday
by Randi02

January 18 at 1:32 PM

5 likes

We don't vaccinate at all, but I would never get a vaccine during pregnancy especially!
There is no flu vaccine on the market that is approved for use in pregnant women. Pregnancy is listed as a contraindication on ALL of them.
I'm very careful about what goes into my body on a regular basis, but even more so when pregnant and breastfeeding.
by louzannalady

January 18 at 1:36 PM

2 likes

I trust the highly educated people (who have their doctorates) who don't want any legal issues and more familiar with their product, who put information to report adverse reations to VAERS in each package of their product, because they don't KNOW that this is safe for babies! And the CDC site, that lists the ingredients in the shots, so that I can make an informed decision.
Here is a list, from the CDC of all the vax's ingredients.
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/b/excipient-table-2.pdf
Here is the first ingredient in the first flu vax listed: beta-Propiolactone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta-Propiolactone
Here is the second ingredient in the same vax: thiomersal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiomersal
Here are current inserts to the different flu vaccines, for your consideration. Just hit Ctrl + F and type "pregnant" and it will take you to the segment on pregnancy. Most have it set up for people to report if there are adverse reactions in pregnancy, because they just don't know for sure if there are any.
http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_fluarix.pdf
http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_flulaval.pdf
http://www.medimmune.com/pdf/products/flumist_pi.pdf
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/UCM123694.pdf
https://www.vaccineshoppe.com/image.cfm?doc_id=12651ℑ_type=product_pdf

Quoting livingrlovesong:

I've gotten the flu shot with all of my kids. (althought I did have the swine flu with my oldest son was born) I will get it with this one. I will trust my DOCTOR over internet research anyday
by livingrlovesong

January 18 at 2:21 PM

Good for you. But im not interested in your links or opinions. My babies were all perfectly healthy. Flu shot and all. Im 11 weeks pregnant now, and I will be getting my flu shot next Tuesday. AND im 1000% positive that this child will be fine to. If I want your opinion, I will ask. But thank you

Quoting louzannalady:

I trust the highly educated people (who have their doctorates) who don't want any legal issues and more familiar with their product, who put information to report adverse reations to VAERS in each package of their product, because they don't KNOW that this is safe for babies! And the CDC site, that lists the ingredients in the shots, so that I can make an informed decision.

Here is a list, from the CDC of all the vax's ingredients.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/b/excipient-table-2.pdf

Here is the first ingredient in the first flu vax listed: beta-Propiolactone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta-Propiolactone

Here is the second ingredient in the same vax: thiomersal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiomersal

Here are current inserts to the different flu vaccines, for your consideration. Just hit Ctrl + F and type "pregnant" and it will take you to the segment on pregnancy. Most have it set up for people to report if there are adverse reactions in pregnancy, because they just don't know for sure if there are any.

http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_fluarix.pdf

http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_flulaval.pdf

http://www.medimmune.com/pdf/products/flumist_pi.pdf

http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/UCM123694.pdf

https://www.vaccineshoppe.com/image.cfm?doc_id=12651%E2%84%91_type=product_pdf

Quoting livingrlovesong:

I've gotten the flu shot with all of my kids. (althought I did have the swine flu with my oldest son was born) I will get it with this one. I will trust my DOCTOR over internet research anyday
by louzannalady

January 18 at 2:24 PM

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The links were no opinion, they are factual: the ingredients from the CDC itself and the inserts from the pharmacitical companies themselves. If you are not interested in such facts, that is fine. I am sorry I infringed by offering such data to you. I wish you and your little ones all the very best. *tips hat* Have a great day, Ma'am! : )
Quoting livingrlovesong:

Good for you. But im not interested in your links or opinions. My babies were all perfectly healthy. Flu shot and all. Im 11 weeks pregnant now, and I will be getting my flu shot next Tuesday. AND im 1000% positive that this child will be fine to. If I want your opinion, I will ask. But thank you

Quoting louzannalady:

I trust the highly educated people (who have their doctorates) who don't want any legal issues and more familiar with their product, who put information to report adverse reations to VAERS in each package of their product, because they don't KNOW that this is safe for babies! And the CDC site, that lists the ingredients in the shots, so that I can make an informed decision.

Here is a list, from the CDC of all the vax's ingredients.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/b/excipient-table-2.pdf

Here is the first ingredient in the first flu vax listed: beta-Propiolactone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta-Propiolactone

Here is the second ingredient in the same vax: thiomersal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiomersal

Here are current inserts to the different flu vaccines, for your consideration. Just hit Ctrl + F and type "pregnant" and it will take you to the segment on pregnancy. Most have it set up for people to report if there are adverse reactions in pregnancy, because they just don't know for sure if there are any.

http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_fluarix.pdf

http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_flulaval.pdf

http://www.medimmune.com/pdf/products/flumist_pi.pdf

http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/UCM123694.pdf

https://www.vaccineshoppe.com/image.cfm?doc_id=12651%E2%84%91_type=product_pdf

Quoting livingrlovesong:

I've gotten the flu shot with all of my kids. (althought I did have the swine flu with my oldest son was born) I will get it with this one. I will trust my DOCTOR over internet research anyday
by RhondaVeggie

January 18 at 2:43 PM

3 likes

And that's your choice. If you don't want to look at the research then all anyone can do is wish you luck.

Quoting livingrlovesong:

Good for you. But im not interested in your links or opinions. My babies were all perfectly healthy. Flu shot and all. Im 11 weeks pregnant now, and I will be getting my flu shot next Tuesday. AND im 1000% positive that this child will be fine to. If I want your opinion, I will ask. But thank you

Quoting louzannalady:

I trust the highly educated people (who have their doctorates) who don't want any legal issues and more familiar with their product, who put information to report adverse reations to VAERS in each package of their product, because they don't KNOW that this is safe for babies! And the CDC site, that lists the ingredients in the shots, so that I can make an informed decision.

Here is a list, from the CDC of all the vax's ingredients.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/b/excipient-table-2.pdf

Here is the first ingredient in the first flu vax listed: beta-Propiolactone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta-Propiolactone

Here is the second ingredient in the same vax: thiomersal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiomersal

Here are current inserts to the different flu vaccines, for your consideration. Just hit Ctrl + F and type "pregnant" and it will take you to the segment on pregnancy. Most have it set up for people to report if there are adverse reactions in pregnancy, because they just don't know for sure if there are any.

http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_fluarix.pdf

http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_flulaval.pdf

http://www.medimmune.com/pdf/products/flumist_pi.pdf

http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/UCM123694.pdf

https://www.vaccineshoppe.com/image.cfm?doc_id=12651%E2%84%91_type=product_pdf

Quoting livingrlovesong:

I've gotten the flu shot with all of my kids. (althought I did have the swine flu with my oldest son was born) I will get it with this one. I will trust my DOCTOR over internet research anyday
by livingrlovesong

January 18 at 2:49 PM

I have done my research. But when it comes down to it, I am a firm believer in my doctor is a doctor for a reason. He went to school for all those years. I also work in a hospital. The doctor is not going to give me anything/do anything that is unsafe for me and my child. So when it comes down to it, its not me or my child that needs the 'Good Luck.' But thank you for your OPINION.

Quoting RhondaVeggie:

And that's your choice. If you don't want to look at the research then all anyone can do is wish you luck.

Quoting livingrlovesong:

Good for you. But im not interested in your links or opinions. My babies were all perfectly healthy. Flu shot and all. Im 11 weeks pregnant now, and I will be getting my flu shot next Tuesday. AND im 1000% positive that this child will be fine to. If I want your opinion, I will ask. But thank you

Quoting louzannalady:

I trust the highly educated people (who have their doctorates) who don't want any legal issues and more familiar with their product, who put information to report adverse reations to VAERS in each package of their product, because they don't KNOW that this is safe for babies! And the CDC site, that lists the ingredients in the shots, so that I can make an informed decision.

Here is a list, from the CDC of all the vax's ingredients.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/b/excipient-table-2.pdf

Here is the first ingredient in the first flu vax listed: beta-Propiolactone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta-Propiolactone

Here is the second ingredient in the same vax: thiomersal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiomersal

Here are current inserts to the different flu vaccines, for your consideration. Just hit Ctrl + F and type "pregnant" and it will take you to the segment on pregnancy. Most have it set up for people to report if there are adverse reactions in pregnancy, because they just don't know for sure if there are any.

http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_fluarix.pdf

http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_flulaval.pdf

http://www.medimmune.com/pdf/products/flumist_pi.pdf

http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/UCM123694.pdf

https://www.vaccineshoppe.com/image.cfm?doc_id=12651%E2%84%91_type=product_pdf

Quoting livingrlovesong:

I've gotten the flu shot with all of my kids. (althought I did have the swine flu with my oldest son was born) I will get it with this one. I will trust my DOCTOR over internet research anyday
by livingrlovesong

January 18 at 2:51 PM

What college did you graduate from? Where did you get your doctorate? What is your PHD in?

I guess your a believer in "Everything you find on the internet is true" Good luck to you, Ma'am

Quoting louzannalady:

The links were no opinion, they are factual: the ingredients from the CDC itself and the inserts from the pharmacitical companies themselves. If you are not interested in such facts, that is fine. I am sorry I infringed by offering such data to you. I wish you and your little ones all the very best. *tips hat* Have a great day, Ma'am! : )

Quoting livingrlovesong:

Good for you. But im not interested in your links or opinions. My babies were all perfectly healthy. Flu shot and all. Im 11 weeks pregnant now, and I will be getting my flu shot next Tuesday. AND im 1000% positive that this child will be fine to. If I want your opinion, I will ask. But thank you

Quoting louzannalady:

I trust the highly educated people (who have their doctorates) who don't want any legal issues and more familiar with their product, who put information to report adverse reations to VAERS in each package of their product, because they don't KNOW that this is safe for babies! And the CDC site, that lists the ingredients in the shots, so that I can make an informed decision.

Here is a list, from the CDC of all the vax's ingredients.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/b/excipient-table-2.pdf

Here is the first ingredient in the first flu vax listed: beta-Propiolactone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta-Propiolactone

Here is the second ingredient in the same vax: thiomersal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiomersal

Here are current inserts to the different flu vaccines, for your consideration. Just hit Ctrl + F and type "pregnant" and it will take you to the segment on pregnancy. Most have it set up for people to report if there are adverse reactions in pregnancy, because they just don't know for sure if there are any.

http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_fluarix.pdf

http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_flulaval.pdf

http://www.medimmune.com/pdf/products/flumist_pi.pdf

http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/UCM123694.pdf

https://www.vaccineshoppe.com/image.cfm?doc_id=12651%E2%84%91_type=product_pdf

Quoting livingrlovesong:

I've gotten the flu shot with all of my kids. (althought I did have the swine flu with my oldest son was born) I will get it with this one. I will trust my DOCTOR over internet research anyday

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