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‘Shameful': Local DC officials lose cool with Dem leaders over partial shutdown
October 14, 2013 at 9:22 AM

‘Shameful': Local DC officials lose cool with Dem leaders over partial shutdown

Published October 10, 2013
FoxNews.com
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Oct. 9, 2013: Washington Mayor Vincent Gray, right, and Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton, D-D.C., left, make their way through the crowd after joining a Senate Democratic press conference in Washington.AP

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Democratic leaders who run the District of Columbia are rapidly losing patience with their Democratic colleagues in Congress and the White House, lashing out at them over the partial government shutdown and questioning their overall strategy. 

 

The District already is dealing with lost tourism revenue, as some would-be visitors change vacation plans, knowing that D.C.'s top attractions like the Smithsonian museums are closed. But unlike other cities, Washington, D.C., also is not allowed to spend locally raised funds during the partial shutdown -- due to its unique status as federal district. City leaders have campaigned to have that restriction lifted, but so far only the Republican-led House has voted to allow it. 

The impasse has D.C. Democrats suddenly on the side of Republicans, and publicly challenging Democrats. 

The tension came to a head on Wednesday, when D.C. Mayor Vincent Gray crashed a Senate Democrats' press conference on Capitol Hill. Gray was attending a nearby rally when he marched over to the Senate Democrats' event, in turn getting into a confrontation of sorts with Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid. 

Reid was caught on camera telling Gray: "I'm on your side. Don't screw it up." 

According to MyFoxDC.com, asked afterward what Reid meant by that, Gray said: "I have no idea." 

Gray -- who plans to deliver an address in Washington, D.C., about the partial shutdown on Thursday evening -- could also be heard getting in a confrontation with Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer of California. 

"We've got to open up this government," she said. 

Gray shot back: "We're not a department of the government. ... We're just asking to spend our own money." 

Boxer said: "Open up the government. Why don't you support opening up the government?" 

Democrats from President Obama on down generally argue that Congress should not take a "piecemeal" approach to opening up certain parts of the government, but should instead pass a catch-all spending bill. 

Obama applied that logic to the House bill that would have let D.C. spend its own money; Obama issued a veto threat last week. That approach is now under fire. 

D.C.'s non-voting delegate, Eleanor Holmes Norton, personally confronted Obama about the decision on Wednesday during a White House meeting attended by House Democrats. 

Sources told Fox News that Norton raised some eyebrows with the exchange, with one calling it "inappropriate." She apparently interrupted the president several times. 

Norton told Fox News that she merely told Obama "the city is running out of its contingency funds." 

She said she was respectful. She acknowledged most members "listen patiently" to the president in these meetings without talking, "but they're not in the same position as I am in ... a big city that is running out of money." 

At the rally, Norton said: "It is shameful now to hold the city's local funds to make a federal point." 

According to The Washington Post, the District has tapped a contingency reserve fund but the account could be exhausted next week. 

However, it's unclear whether Congress and the White House might be able to reach a deal to pass a spending bill by then. House Republicans are floating a plan to allow for a short-term increase in the debt ceiling, but it would not directly address the partial government shutdown. 

Amid the impasse, D.C. officials have found an unlikely ally in Republican Rep. Darrell Issa, who joined them for their rally on Wednesday. 

"These taxes are paid by the District of Columbia" and "entrusted to your elected officials," he told D.C. residents. 

The impact on Washington tourism is also a factor. Though many tour groups and conventions are still going forward as scheduled, some have reported a dip in traffic. 

D.C. tourism organization Destination D.C. reports that last week, hotel occupancy was down about 9 percent from the year prior. 

"It's pretty evident that at least some of that had to do with the shutdown," spokeswoman Sarah Maciejewski said, adding: "There's still a lot of people coming" to see other parts of the city.

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  • pvtjokerus
    October 14, 2013 at 9:23 AM

    I wonder how much $$$ they lost when the Demos wouldn't open the memorials.....that is a lot of tourism lost.

  • cjsbmom
    by cjsbmom
    October 14, 2013 at 9:27 AM

    What happened to "this is equally the fault of both parties?"

    Quoting pvtjokerus:

    I wonder how much $$$ they lost when the Demos wouldn't open the memorials.....that is a lot of tourism lost.


  • pvtjokerus
    October 14, 2013 at 9:28 AM

    Umm, the Repubs sent up a bill to keep the memorials open.  The demos rejected it.


    Quoting cjsbmom:

    What happened to "this is equally the fault of both parties?"

    Quoting pvtjokerus:

    I wonder how much $$$ they lost when the Demos wouldn't open the memorials.....that is a lot of tourism lost.



     

  • cjsbmom
    by cjsbmom
    October 14, 2013 at 9:31 AM

    It was the petty posturing of the Republicans in the House that shut down the government in the first place. I don't blame the Dems for not wanting to help the Repubs dig themselves out of the quagmire they've created for themselves. Why should they? The Repubs pull this shit all the time. They do something that is incredibly unpopular, then expect the Dems to agree to all kinds of concessions in order to fix the problem for them. I don't blame the Dems for refusing to do it this time. All the Repubs are trying to do here is earn brownie points with the American people.

    Quoting pvtjokerus:

    Umm, the Repubs sent up a bill to keep the memorials open.  The demos rejected it.


    Quoting cjsbmom:

    What happened to "this is equally the fault of both parties?"

    Quoting pvtjokerus:

    I wonder how much $$$ they lost when the Demos wouldn't open the memorials.....that is a lot of tourism lost.





  • Healthystart30
    October 14, 2013 at 9:37 AM
    Maybe this guy and Chris Christie should band together. They both seem to actually care about the well being of their people and not party politics. Why would the democrats have to sit silently and listen to Obama? If you can't raise your concerns over what is happening with your own party leader I think the game is lost for all of us. She shouldn't be called inappropriate, makes it seem like Obama can't take a minute to listen to his own people.
  • pvtjokerus
    October 14, 2013 at 9:38 AM

    Sorry, don't buy want you are trying to convey.  Clinton had more class, and we all know he is pretty dang classless, and kept certain things open in order to not screw with the American people.  The Democrats have taken this to the extreme.....keeping people out of their homes, shutting down business because they have to use easements owned by the Fed Gov to get to the properties, shutting down memorials etc.......While the Repubs tried to get ObamaTax delayed for a year (just like Obama has delayed it for his Big Business and those in Congress/Senate) and stop funding a broken program yes...they started this issue.  But at least they had some integrity and sent 11 bills up the chain in order to alleviate the pain. 

    As for the debt ceiling issue......this is all Obama.


    Quoting cjsbmom:

    It was the petty posturing of the Republicans in the House that shut down the government in the first place. I don't blame the Dems for not wanting to help the Repubs dig themselves out of the quagmire they've created for themselves. Why should they? The Repubs pull this shit all the time. They do something that is incredibly unpopular, then expect the Dems to agree to all kinds of concessions in order to fix the problem for them. I don't blame the Dems for refusing to do it this time. All the Repubs are trying to do here is earn brownie points with the American people.

    Quoting pvtjokerus:

    Umm, the Repubs sent up a bill to keep the memorials open.  The demos rejected it.

     

    Quoting cjsbmom:

    What happened to "this is equally the fault of both parties?"

    Quoting pvtjokerus:

    I wonder how much $$$ they lost when the Demos wouldn't open the memorials.....that is a lot of tourism lost.


     

     



     

  • cjsbmom
    by cjsbmom
    October 14, 2013 at 9:41 AM

    I don't buy what you're trying to convey, either. Defend the Repubs. Don't just bash the Dems. If they are truly worthy of defending, you should be able to do so without pointing fingers at the Dems. 

    And the Repubs didn't ask to delay the ACA for a year. They tried to defund it. For the 44th time in two years. Not the same thing. 

    Quoting pvtjokerus:

    Sorry, don't buy want you are trying to convey.  Clinton had more class, and we all know he is pretty dang classless, and kept certain things open in order to not screw with the American people.  The Democrats have taken this to the extreme.....keeping people out of their homes, shutting down business because they have to use easements owned by the Fed Gov to get to the properties, shutting down memorials etc.......While the Repubs tried to get ObamaTax delayed for a year (just like Obama has delayed it for his Big Business and those in Congress/Senate) and stop funding a broken program yes...they started this issue.  But at least they had some integrity and sent 11 bills up the chain in order to alleviate the pain. 

    As for the debt ceiling issue......this is all Obama.


    Quoting cjsbmom:

    It was the petty posturing of the Republicans in the House that shut down the government in the first place. I don't blame the Dems for not wanting to help the Repubs dig themselves out of the quagmire they've created for themselves. Why should they? The Repubs pull this shit all the time. They do something that is incredibly unpopular, then expect the Dems to agree to all kinds of concessions in order to fix the problem for them. I don't blame the Dems for refusing to do it this time. All the Repubs are trying to do here is earn brownie points with the American people.

    Quoting pvtjokerus:

    Umm, the Repubs sent up a bill to keep the memorials open.  The demos rejected it.


    Quoting cjsbmom:

    What happened to "this is equally the fault of both parties?"

    Quoting pvtjokerus:

    I wonder how much $$$ they lost when the Demos wouldn't open the memorials.....that is a lot of tourism lost.








  • pvtjokerus
    October 14, 2013 at 9:47 AM

     They tried to do both.  Obamacare should be pushed back for a year and then probably should be defunded.  This plan is not good.  Now the rest of the hold-up is because the Demos are trying to go back and changed the previous sequester payouts that were put into law.  How shameful is that?


    Quoting cjsbmom:

    I don't buy what you're trying to convey, either. Defend the Repubs. Don't just bash the Dems. If they are truly worthy of defending, you should be able to do so without pointing fingers at the Dems. 

    And the Repubs didn't ask to delay the ACA for a year. They tried to defund it. For the 44th time in two years. Not the same thing. 

    Quoting pvtjokerus:

    Sorry, don't buy want you are trying to convey.  Clinton had more class, and we all know he is pretty dang classless, and kept certain things open in order to not screw with the American people.  The Democrats have taken this to the extreme.....keeping people out of their homes, shutting down business because they have to use easements owned by the Fed Gov to get to the properties, shutting down memorials etc.......While the Repubs tried to get ObamaTax delayed for a year (just like Obama has delayed it for his Big Business and those in Congress/Senate) and stop funding a broken program yes...they started this issue.  But at least they had some integrity and sent 11 bills up the chain in order to alleviate the pain. 

    As for the debt ceiling issue......this is all Obama.

     

    Quoting cjsbmom:

    It was the petty posturing of the Republicans in the House that shut down the government in the first place. I don't blame the Dems for not wanting to help the Repubs dig themselves out of the quagmire they've created for themselves. Why should they? The Repubs pull this shit all the time. They do something that is incredibly unpopular, then expect the Dems to agree to all kinds of concessions in order to fix the problem for them. I don't blame the Dems for refusing to do it this time. All the Repubs are trying to do here is earn brownie points with the American people.

    Quoting pvtjokerus:

    Umm, the Repubs sent up a bill to keep the memorials open.  The demos rejected it.

     

    Quoting cjsbmom:

    What happened to "this is equally the fault of both parties?"

    Quoting pvtjokerus:

    I wonder how much $$$ they lost when the Demos wouldn't open the memorials.....that is a lot of tourism lost.


     

     


     

     



     

  • Sisteract
    October 14, 2013 at 10:32 AM

    OP, best turn your concerns to the 2014 midterms.

    Put your time and efforts into a good constructive cause.

  • LoveMyBoyK
    October 14, 2013 at 2:59 PM

     Of course it is the fault of both parties -- THIS part is completely the fault of the Dems who only make exceptions for their pet agenda items, like immigration, and then scream "NO, we CAN"T make exceptions" when anything that will really hurt comes across their path because they WANT the American people to feel it.  They want the maximum pain so people will attribute that pain to the Repubs.  They underestimate the average American and I find that insulting and sad.  The moment the Mall was opened to a rally for immigration, the Dems lost their advantage because they can NO LONGER claim that it is the Repubs keeping everything closed and they can't do a thing about it without compromising their precious principles.  Yeah, they can, and the WILL if it is something that they want and know the Repubs don't want. 

    YOU are the one who does not seem to want to assign ANY blame to the left.  It seems everytime something comes up that is attributed to the pettiness of the left, you deflect it or try to spin it.  THIS issue is ALL on the Dems who are REFUSING a bill that would allow DC to use it's own money ... and they are doing it solely out of spite and pettiness so that they can HURT the American people and say "see, see what those mean Repubs have done to you".  Again, the average American is NOT as stupid as Obama and the DNC are banking on.


    Quoting cjsbmom:

    What happened to "this is equally the fault of both parties?"

    Quoting pvtjokerus:

    I wonder how much $$$ they lost when the Demos wouldn't open the memorials.....that is a lot of tourism lost.