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Catholic and Support Gay Marriage? No Communion for You!
April 12, 2013 at 11:10 AM



Catholic and Support Gay Marriage? No Communion for You!

The leader of the Detroit Archdiocese has said that if Catholic congregants support same-sex marriage they should be denied Communion, and he’s not alone in that thinking.

The Archbishop of Detroit Allen Vigneron on Sunday told the Detroit Free Press that he agrees with a senior Catholic lawyer that those who support same-sex marriage should be denied Communion. Vigneron reportedly told the Free Press:

“For a Catholic to receive holy Communion and still deny the revelation Christ entrusted to the church is to try to say two contradictory things at once: ‘I believe the church offers the saving truth of Jesus, and I reject what the church teaches.’ In effect, they would contradict themselves. This sort of behavior would result in publicly renouncing one’s integrity and logically bring shame for a double-dealing that is not unlike perjury.”

For a number of years now, senior Catholic figures have threatened public officials, like Rep. Nancy Pelosi, with a denial of Communion over issues like pro-choice reforms, and now increasingly, this is applied to the issue of same-sex marriage.

Vigneron’s comments chase those of Edward Peters, a lawyer and adviser to the Vatican who teaches Catholic canon law at Sacred Heart Major Seminary in Detroit and who, in a blog post last month, wrote:

“The Catholic Church teaches, through its ordinary magisterium and with infallible certainty, that marriage exists only between one man and one woman [...] Catholics who promote “same-sex marriage” act contrary to Canon 209 § 1 and should not approach for holy Communion per Canon 916. Depending on the facts of the case, they also risk having holy Communion withheld from them under Canon 915, being rebuked under Canon 1339 § 2, and/or being sanctioned under Canon 1369 for gravely injuring good morals.”

Peters goes on to say those engaging in a same-sex marriage or those who have helped facilitate a same-sex marriage could also be barred from Communion.

Whether as damage control or an empty attempt to answer criticism, the diocese’s spokesperson, Joe Kohn, issued the following statement on Monday:

The archbishop’s focal point here is not “gay marriage”; it is a Catholic’s reception of Holy Communion. If a Catholic publicly opposes the church on a serious matter of the church’s teaching, any serious matter — for example, whether it be a rejection of the divinity of Christ, racist beliefs, support for abortion or support for redefining marriage — that would contradict the public affirmation they would make of the church’s beliefs by receiving Communion.

As the archbishop states, the pastors of the church are ready to assist Catholics to help them understand and avoid this conflict.

Vigneron called Catholics supporting same-sex marriage tantamount to perjury. You don’t get to throw around words like that and then pretend, as Kohn does above, that there’s no argument to be fought.

Now an initial reaction to this might be that the position, while odious, is perfectly within the realm of religious freedom of expression and that the church can define its own rules however it sees fit. Fine. Move on. Except that while in some circumstances that is true, there’s a problem here, isn’t there?

Increasingly, a majority of Catholic congregants support, if not same-sex marriage in the religious sense, marriage equality in the secular and legal sense. A recent poll says that support has now surpassed the majority mark at 54%. When asked about this, they often cite their religious beliefs. An example would be the aforementioned Nancy Pelosi, who has said her faith and her self-avowed relationship with God compels her to oppose discrimination.

So what of a religious right to express that aspect of one’s faith by supporting same-sex marriage?

Well, it seems the Catholic church is dealing with this by defining those people out of being Catholic and denying them Holy Communion, a key pillar for Catholic identity.

Technically the church can do whatever it wants in that regard, but one thing is certain. With positions like this, the church could shed support in swathes and elegantly marginalize itself in only a matter of decades because what the church thinks it means to be Catholic really doesn’t seem to be what its congregants think Catholicism is, and this is a possibly fatal disconnect.

In the short term at least, it makes the church’s staunch cries about how we must protect religious rights and rally against marriage equality sound even more hollow.

 

Related Reading:

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Catholic Church Dumps Another Charity For LGBT Support

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Read more: http://www.care2.com/causes/catholic-and-support-gay-marriage-no-communion-for-you.html#ixzz2QGJAFKdc

Replies

  • 12hellokitty
    April 12, 2013 at 11:14 AM

    What's with the picture?  

  • Goodwoman614
    April 12, 2013 at 11:15 AM



    Quoting 12hellokitty:

    What's with the picture?  

    Purposefully obtuse. How surprising.


  • Sisteract
    April 12, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    Yet they allowed Priests who molested young boys to continue to minister to the flock and HAND OUT Communion.

    There's no conflict or lack of common sense and decency there-

  • mehamil1
    April 12, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    Support marriage equality, don't get to eat Jesus. 

    Molest children, get to eat Jesus. 

    Yeah, makes perfect sense. 

  • 12hellokitty
    April 12, 2013 at 11:25 AM



    Quoting Goodwoman614:



    Quoting 12hellokitty:

    What's with the picture?  

    Purposefully obtuse. How surprising.



    Sorry but don't you think it's a little lazy reporting to attack the Catholic Church on Communion and post a picture of non-Catholic communion?

    As for the story I fully support elected officials who identify as Catholic while at the same time publicly deny and intentionally misrepresent Church teachings be denied Communion.  


  • MidwestMama55
    April 12, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    Makes sense to me.  If you support gay marriage, you are not a Catholic and should not be receiving Holy Communion. Find a "Joe Bob's" church to be a part of.

  • MidwestMama55
    April 12, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    I thought the same thing. I was a Protestant before converting to Catholicism 15 years ago. That is a picture of a Protestant communion, not a Catholic one. Perhaps the writer of the article didn't know there was a difference.

    Quoting 12hellokitty:

    What's with the picture?  



  • LucyMom08
    April 12, 2013 at 11:32 AM

     So now they aren't even trying to hide the fact that they think you should have no personal opinions...wow...

  • Dzyre1115
    April 12, 2013 at 11:33 AM

     All religions have guidelines and principles if you don't agree with or don't support those principles then you are not practicing the religion properly, simple as that.

  • MidwestMama55
    April 12, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    Sad that you are such a hater. A very, very, very tiny number of priests were involved in those horrible acts. There are more schoolteachers that molest children than Catholic priests. There are more Protestant ministers that molest children than Catholic priests. There are more parents that molest children than Catholic priests. But for those who hate religion, they just see what they want to see.


    Quoting mehamil1:

    Support marriage equality, don't get to eat Jesus. 

    Molest children, get to eat Jesus. 

    Yeah, makes perfect sense. 



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