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I prefer a high capacity magazine when hunting humans
by Carpy
March 8, 2013 at 8:57 PM

Seems Senator Feinstein thinks such a high capacity should be illegal when hunting humans.  Doesn't she realize that human can attack and hurt you if you don't have the firepower to take it down?


During a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on gun control Thursday, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) shot down a proposed amendment to her “assault weapons” ban that would exempt military veterans from the gun ban. She also made some questionable claims.

Pushing a ban on high-capacity magazines, Feinstein argued that it is “legal to hunt humans with 15-round, 30-round, even 150-round magazines.”

Here’s her dubious rationale:

“The time has come, America, to step up and ban these weapons. The other very important part of this bill is to ban large capacity ammunition feeding devices, those that hold more than 10 rounds. We have federal regulations and state laws that prohibit hunting ducks with more than three rounds. And yet it’s legal to hunt humans with 15-round, 30-round, even 150-round magazines. Limiting magazine capacity is critical because it is when a criminal, a drug dealer, a deranged individual has to pause to change magazines and reload that the police or brave bystanders have the opportunity to take that individual down.”

During the same hearing, she also argued that a military veteran could be mentally ill and suffering from Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), therefore should be prevented from buying the semi-automatic weapons that would be banned in her bill.

The California Democrat also made the bizarre claim that the “advent of PTSD” is a “new phenomenon” and a “product of the Iraq war.”

Here’s exactly what she said in context: “The problem with expanding this is that, you know, with the advent of PTSD, which I think is a new phenomenon as a product of the Iraq War, it’s not clear how the seller or transferrer of a firearm covered by this bill would verify that an individual was a member, or a veteran, and that there was no impairment of that individual with respect to having a weapon like this.”

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  • Carpy
    by Carpy
    March 8, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    Sorry, but what a FUCKING IDIOT.

  • Sekirei
    by Sekirei
    March 8, 2013 at 9:00 PM


    Quoting Carpy:

    Sorry, but what a FUCKING IDIOT.

    Holy mess, I am agreeing with you again!!

  • Carpy
    by Carpy
    March 8, 2013 at 9:03 PM

    Scary, isn't it?

    Quoting Sekirei:


    Quoting Carpy:

    Sorry, but what a FUCKING IDIOT.

    Holy mess, I am agreeing with you again!!


  • momtoscott
    March 8, 2013 at 9:04 PM

     Is a person's veteran status--which I respect and honor--enough to qualify him or her to have firearms, whether or not there is also a serious mental illness in play?  It is a stupidly phrased, but still valid, concern. 

    I agree that it is stupid to think that the idea of PTSD was developed post the Iraq war, since people have been writing about this phenomenon for several thousand years now. 

  • Carpy
    by Carpy
    March 8, 2013 at 9:07 PM

    But the important thing is she wants to limit capacity for human hunting.  She thinks 15 rounds are to much.  I just wouldn't feel safe out there if I can only have 3 or 5 round limit when hunting humans. 

    Quoting momtoscott:

     Is a person's veteran status--which I respect and honor--enough to qualify him or her to have firearms, whether or not there is also a serious mental illness in play?  It is a stupidly phrased, but still valid, concern. 

    I agree that it is stupid to think that the idea of PTSD was developed post the Iraq war, since people have been writing about this phenomenon for several thousand years now. 


  • NewMom11222011
    March 8, 2013 at 9:07 PM



    Perhaps she should refer to:

    http://www.ptsd.va.gov/professional/pages/ptsd-overview.asp

    which notes that the diagnosis of PTSD to the DSMIII in 1980 which, if memory serves me correctly was well before the war in Iraq.

    To borrow a phrase from a fellow CM'er "Oy to the Vey".

  • Sekirei
    by Sekirei
    March 8, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    I know.. I need a beer.

    Quoting Carpy:

    Scary, isn't it?

    Quoting Sekirei:


    Quoting Carpy:

    Sorry, but what a FUCKING IDIOT.

    Holy mess, I am agreeing with you again!!



  • Carpy
    by Carpy
    March 8, 2013 at 9:10 PM

    Yep, that part is pretty stupid of her too.  It has existed in every war.  Battle fatigue, shell shock etc.. to the modern term, PTSD.  Who the hell elects such idiots?

    Quoting NewMom11222011:



    Perhaps she should refer to:

    http://www.ptsd.va.gov/professional/pages/ptsd-overview.asp

    which notes that the diagnosis of PTSD to the DSMIII in 1980 which, if memory serves me correctly was well before the war in Iraq.

    To borrow a phrase from a fellow CM'er "Oy to the Vey".


  • Carpy
    by Carpy
    March 8, 2013 at 9:11 PM

    I have some Michelob.  Want one?

    Quoting Sekirei:

    I know.. I need a beer.

    Quoting Carpy:

    Scary, isn't it?

    Quoting Sekirei:


    Quoting Carpy:

    Sorry, but what a FUCKING IDIOT.

    Holy mess, I am agreeing with you again!!




  • momtoscott
    March 8, 2013 at 9:11 PM

     Fair enough.  Maybe you need to put in some extra time at the shooting range, and then you will be comfortable with the lowered limits.  I'm with you there, my hand-eye coordination is not the best.  :)

    Quoting Carpy:

    But the important thing is she wants to limit capacity for human hunting.  She thinks 15 rounds are to much.  I just wouldn't feel safe out there if I can only have 3 or 5 round limit when hunting humans. 

    Quoting momtoscott:

     Is a person's veteran status--which I respect and honor--enough to qualify him or her to have firearms, whether or not there is also a serious mental illness in play?  It is a stupidly phrased, but still valid, concern. 

    I agree that it is stupid to think that the idea of PTSD was developed post the Iraq war, since people have been writing about this phenomenon for several thousand years now. 


     

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