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Flash Mob Mayhem: Violent Groups Of Teens Leave NYC Businesses In Ruins
Thugs With No Regard For Anyone But Themselves Causing Chaos All Over
February 4, 2013 11:20 PM
Newsstands all over New York City are being attacked by flash mobs of teenagers hell bent to rob owners of everything they have. (Photo: CBS 2)
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NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) - Violent, thieving mobs have been making headlines across the country for the past few years, and now they have hit New York City.
And Maurice Dubois reported in this CBS 2 investigation, the teen mobs have left neighborhoods worried as businesses take matters into their own hands.
Judson Bennett, 78, recently ran into a violent group of teens - often described with the once-benign term "flash mob" - as he made his daily trip to buy a newspaper at his favorite news team.
"I'm approaching the newsstand, and then suddenly there is a tremendous force behind me," Bennett said.
Bennett ended up with a broken arm.
"I was taken completely by surprise," he said.
In New York and across the country, the mobs of kids - 20, 30, 40 or more - appear out of nowhere and suddenly charge a newsstand or convenience store.
They ransack, steal and wreak havoc with no consideration for customers, such as Bennett, who get in their way.
"They assemble, they do whatever it is that they're going to do, and then they disassemble in a matter of minutes," said Jon Shane, assistant professor of criminal justice at John Jay College. "By the time somebody recognizes what is happening or is injured, if the police are able to respond, it's slow."
Raj Shmara owns a newsstand at Broadway at 55th Street. Shmara said his newsstand has been targeted seven different times by mobs of teens. During an attack just last week, the kids threw a bottle at an employee who had to be hospitalized.
"They cost me a lot," he said.
The increase in attacks and their violent nature has many people concerned.
"I think it needs to be addressed," said Gale Spitalnik. "It's awful."
"It's disturbing to have that kind of activity happening in New York City," said Greg Lukasiewicz of Nutley, N.J.
"It's against the law," said Edvin Brown of Brooklyn. "They should address the problem [like] they address every other issue."
The man who manages the newsstand where Bennett was injured said it has been attacked four times in just the past few weeks.
"It's hard to earn a living, and then they come here and destroy everything, and then they leave," he said. "It's sad."
As quickly as they arrive, the newsstand victims said, the teens are gone - along with thousands of dollars in goods and damages.
Teens have destroyed the newsstand on 57th Street between Eighth and Ninth avenues so many times that the manager has been forced to shut down completely in the afternoon so he doesn't lose any more money.
"All our displays are broken," he said.
When CBS 2 contacted the NYPD about the issue, the Department declined to comment.
Meanwhile, many newsstands have turned to putting in their own surveillance to try and deter the attacks - because they feel left on their own.
"I try to scare them, ‘Look, I'm going to take your photo,' and some kids they run," a newsstand owner said.
Shop owners in Carroll Gardens, Brooklyn said similar problems there stopped when plainclothes police officers were assigned to the area.
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First, I would like to see links to those discussions.
Second, what am I missing? Where were you getting that these crimes are all being perpetrated by non-whites?
Quoting Radarma:
Quoting Goodwoman614:
Quoting brookiecookie87:
Quoting Radarma:
Quoting Mystres:
Omg Ty, u r awesome and one of the few people with the balls to say it. The proof is in the picture.
Thanks. I don't care what a handful of white libmoms think of me.
Do you care about the facts?
from here: http://www.ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/
Count
White
Black
Total
Male
4,949,123
1,326,106
6,275,229
Total
4,949,123
1,326,106
6,275,229
No, no (s)he doesn't.
Yes, yes she does, and she has gone over how these stats are gathered, ad naseum on this very board. I can link you to some of these very conversations if you would like?
Now wait, wait a minute, isn't this what people like to call "deflection"?
What about the FACTS, that we have these "youth mobs" terrorizing stores and strangers?
Imagine if these were "mobs" of white youth, and their vics were primarily nonwhite businesses and homes and bodies?
OMG Can ya imagine the uproar. I can.
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All of the following is from a simple ten minute google query on the phrase "violent flash mob".
It's a big elephant.http://violentflashmobs.com/
(a spreadsheet format, for those who are interested)http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/08/02/media-covers-up-violence-of-flash-mobs/
Excerpt:
The videos with the multi-media comments attached by witnesses to the flash mobs make it clear that the flash mob participants are more often than not of one race and that they are attacking people of another race - often suggested by the locations chosen for the mob attacks.
Though not exclusively, the attacks are quite often young African-American teens attacking non-African-American people. The media purposefully and blatantly omits the obvious racial part of these stories. There is absolutely no benefit to society when the media stops short of calling a flash mob attack the race riot it is.
Cities and other communities need to quit watering-down these stories and deleting disturbing details because it equates to lying to the public. Race rioting is going on again in the United States as it has in decades past, and the public at-large needs to be informed of it. Protecting a community's image or a segment of society's image should not override the public's need to know and need to be protected.
The media, the politicians, and the bulk of the commentators on social issues need to quit being afraid of people like the Rev. Al Sharpton on the left and Rush Limbaugh on the right. They need to be unconcerned if they are going to make a place look as bad as it is. They need to be unconcerned if they are going to make a group of people engaged in a flash mob attack look as bad as their actions are. If a story is about race, it must be reported as a racial story for the good of the people who could easily be subjected to the next flash mob attack.
http://www.wnd.com/2011/08/329513/
Excerpt:
Everybody knows that not all black teens attack in flash mobs. There is no one in a position of prominence in society who would say or mean that. When someone says "Black teens have been attacking in flash mobs," we should know what they mean - that the people who attack in flash mobs have been black.
Nonetheless, in articles and radio interviews, I've pointed out the simple fact that black teens have been attacking in flash mobs. A common response to my factual observation is that "Not all blacks are that way," or "You can't generalize." But I've never stated or implied that all blacks are that way, or made any generalizations. Our conversation about race is stuck in this bizarre cycle where someone makes an observation about group behavior, and the only response from many people is a cliché like "Don't judge entire groups." It's as if the plain meaning of words becomes clouded when we pass into the forbidden topic of race. Many are playing word games to evade the stark facts about racial mob violence.
While the shooting death of a young gay man named Lawrence King makes the cover of Newsweek magazine, an equally harmful type of hateful violence has been underreported. Anna Taylor, Emily Guendelsberger and Thomas Fitzgerald of Philadelphia all suffered in separate, violent "flash mob" attacks, committed by blacks. The details of their attacks are shocking; the trend is to pick a random pedestrian, punch them and then kick them brutally while they are down. Whether it's the shooting death of Andrew Graham in Denver, or a young white lady named Shaina Perry being taunted and beaten in Milwaukee, or Carter Strange having his skull fractured in Columbia, S.C., or Dawid Strucinski beaten into a coma in Bayonne, the facts are clear: There is a trend of black teens in groups randomly attacking innocent people, usually non-black people. It's not about robbery; sometimes these attacks are just vicious "games" like the "knock out game" that took the life of 72-year-old Hoang Nguyen in St. Louis. The victims of these attacks, nationwide, are generally non-black, and the attackers are invariably black. What we are seeing is a social problem with a racial element, and it needs to be addressed.
It is undeniable, based on reporting from even liberal news sources, that the people who attack in violent flash mobs are almost exclusively black teens.
Feb. 3: 9:25 p.m. at Seventh Street and Nicollet Mall. Several suspects, one displaying a handgun, assault a group of five young men, ages 18 to 19. No serious injuries or arrests.
• Feb. 20: 2:22 a.m. at 119 N. Fourth St. Six to seven young men, one with a handgun, threaten and then assault a 28-year-old St. Paul man, taking his cellphone and leaving him with face and torso injuries that did not require hospitalization. No immediate arrests.
• Feb. 25: 2 a.m. at 413 Nicollet Mall. Suspects assault two men, ages 22 and 25. Neither victim required hospitalization. No immediate arrests.
• March 11: 8 p.m. at Sixth Street and Nicollet Mall. Four men, ages 21 to 30, attacked. Two bikes stolen; one recovered. No hospitalization or arrests.
• March 17: 11:45 p.m. at 90 S. Seventh St. Two men, ages 23 and 27, are attacked. The younger man is seriously injured and admitted to intensive care at Hennepin County Medical Center. -
Feel free to read my threads, and be sure to see my last response for the rest.
Quoting Proud2BWeird:
First, I would like to see links to those discussions.
Second, what am I missing? Where were you getting that these crimes are all being perpetrated by non-whites?
Quoting Radarma:
Quoting Goodwoman614:
Quoting brookiecookie87:
Quoting Radarma:
Quoting Mystres:
Omg Ty, u r awesome and one of the few people with the balls to say it. The proof is in the picture.
Thanks. I don't care what a handful of white libmoms think of me.
Do you care about the facts?
from here: http://www.ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/
Count
White
Black
Total
Male
4,949,123
1,326,106
6,275,229
Total
4,949,123
1,326,106
6,275,229
No, no (s)he doesn't.
Yes, yes she does, and she has gone over how these stats are gathered, ad naseum on this very board. I can link you to some of these very conversations if you would like?
Now wait, wait a minute, isn't this what people like to call "deflection"?
What about the FACTS, that we have these "youth mobs" terrorizing stores and strangers?
Imagine if these were "mobs" of white youth, and their vics were primarily nonwhite businesses and homes and bodies?
OMG Can ya imagine the uproar. I can. -
Quoting Radarma:
Quoting brookiecookie87:
Quoting Radarma:
Quoting Mystres:
Omg Ty, u r awesome and one of the few people with the balls to say it. The proof is in the picture.
Thanks. I don't care what a handful of white libmoms think of me.Do you care about the facts?
from here: http://www.ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/
Count White Black Total Male 4,949,123 1,326,106 6,275,229 Total 4,949,123 1,326,106 6,275,229
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Hispanic_and_Latino_Americans
http://racerelations.about.com/b/2011/10/02/more-hispanics-identifying-as-white.htm
Do I really need to explain how this works?
Those numbers are "non hispanic" whites.
these numbers are for the "hispanic" White & Black detention populations and are not included in the numbers Brookie reposted.
Count White Black Total Male 2,956,705 183,778 3,140,483 Total 2,956,705 183,778 3,140,483 -
The only elephant in the room is the racist pretender who keeps posting racist subtexts because for whatever reason (subversion of TOS, denial of personal racism) she can't/won't come out directly with "I hate those damn n*ggers!"
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This comment from a woman that types " LIBTARDS" I got it. You don't like black people and you don't respect disabled people either. When this group slows you show up.
Quoting Radarma:
Quoting Mystres:
I havent known of any of these happening near me. But I don't think the news is covering it enough. I didn't even really know about these until a friend sent me a link about it.
thankgoodness I carry at all times.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/07/17/massive-flash-mob-of-300-terrorizes-robs-florida-walmart-after-local-party-broken-up-by-police/
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/15/possible-flash-mob-hits-maryland-7-eleven-police-say/
Yup, that is just a couple. Our MSM has decided not to cover these in depth, for fear of being called "racisssssts!" lol
I don't care about being called that r word. The elephant IS: these ain't white kids. So what's up?Is this also a result of poverty and oppression? I sincerely doubt it.
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You don't care about being called the R-word either. Surely the owner of the group can get a better person than this to" REV UP " the group. Surely. Nuff said.
Quoting SEEKEROFSHELLS:
This comment from a woman that types " LIBTARDS" I got it. You don't like black people and you don't respect disabled people either. When this group slows you show up.
Quoting Radarma:
Quoting Mystres:
I havent known of any of these happening near me. But I don't think the news is covering it enough. I didn't even really know about these until a friend sent me a link about it.
thankgoodness I carry at all times.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/07/17/massive-flash-mob-of-300-terrorizes-robs-florida-walmart-after-local-party-broken-up-by-police/
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/15/possible-flash-mob-hits-maryland-7-eleven-police-say/
Yup, that is just a couple. Our MSM has decided not to cover these in depth, for fear of being called "racisssssts!" lol
I don't care about being called that r word. The elephant IS: these ain't white kids. So what's up?Is this also a result of poverty and oppression? I sincerely doubt it.
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this was definitely an interesting read. Dar is your nomme de plume Flaherty?
Why conservatives obsess over flash mobs and “race riots”
How and why the right suddenly became very, very frightened of black people
We get a lot of unsolicited batshit racist email here at Salon HQ, as pretty much all media outlets do, but this one — which went to just about everyone on staff in one form or another — was a good example of not really crafting a message that will convince or appeal to your chosen audience:
Hi Alex,
Thomas Sowell says he did not know how bad racial violence really was until he read “White Girl Bleed a Lot: The Return of Racial Violence to America and How the Media Ignore It.”
From today’s National Review:
Reading Colin Flaherty’s book made painfully clear to me that the magnitude of this problem is greater than I had discovered from my own research. He documents both the race riots and the media and political evasions in dozens of cities across America.
A good recent example of this is from a few weeks ago: The Fourth of July.
Flaherty documents 11 episodes of racial violence from the Fourth of July in Greensboro, Philadelphia, Chicago, Waco, Florida, Georgia, Peoria, Los Angeles, Cleveland and Columbus.
All in one day. There’a a lot more.
Sound like a story?
(That was an email from “Dan Auld.” An identical email from “Margie Warren” was sent to our Laura Miller. Let’s assume both are Colin Flaherty.)
Anyway, sure, it sounds like a story, but not quite the story “Dan” pitched. (Eleven incidents in one day! On one day when nearly everyone in America didn’t have to work or attend school! Eleven separate incidents in a country of 300 million people!) It’s actually the story of how and why the right suddenly became very, very frightened of black people.
So, this Flaherty guy is pretty sure that there’s a black crime wave going on, and also that there is a conspiracy — by the media and the police — to cover up this crime wave by not always pointing out when the perpetrators of crimes are black. His evidence? YouTube clips and newspaper comment sections, mostly. The book seems to be a collection of literally every single crime Flaherty could find, over the last few years, involving black perpetrators and white victims (though some involve incidents where the victims were black, and in many incidents the “victim” was property owned by white people), plus a lot of material on roving, rampaging gangs of black teenagers. Exciting stuff! Look, Thomas Sowell loved it, because it shows how dangerously close we are to an actual racial civil war:
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Quoting Goodwoman614:
The only elephant in the room is the racist pretender who keeps posting racist subtexts because for whatever reason (subversion of TOS, denial of personal racism) she can't/won't come out directly with "I hate those damn n*ggers!"
This is disgusting, I don't hate black people, I feel sorry for them and I blame the parents of these "good kids".
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http://frontpagemag.com/2012/jamie-glazov/white-girl-bleed-a-lot/
Let’s begin with what inspired you to write this book.
Flaherty: Thanks Jamie.
My brother and I were doing a talk radio show in WDEL Wilmington, Delaware when I read a story about something called a flash mob on the streets of Philadelphia. This was two years ago. Then it happened again and again. Finally I looked at it on YouTube, and the violence and mayhem I saw on video was totally different than the antiseptic account I read in the newspapers in Philadelphia. Everyone involved was black. So I asked a few reporters: “What’s up with this race riot in Philadelphia?” They said it was not a race riot and I was imagining things. “Did you see the videos?” I asked. “Well, everyone is black but race has nothing to do with it.”
The riots kept happening, in Philadelphia and elsewhere. I kept asking people what was going on. They kept denying anything was going on.
So I decided I would write a book for the people who denied the reality of this horrific racial violence and mayhem. And that was it: No explanations. No solutions. No apologies. Just that these things are happening all over the country and it cannot be good that so many people are so aggressively denying it.
FP: So what did you discover while writing the book?
Flaherty: I found out almost right away that there are two problems: One, racial violence; and two, liberal reporters and public officials who condone, explain, and even lie about it. I realized the problem was much worse than I, or anyone else thought.
FP: Give us an example of the lies.
Flaherty: Sure, Chicago. Memorial Day 2011. Chicago had been the site of a series of black mob attacks in all different parts of the city. In the downtown, the gay area, the public transportation, and the beaches, to name a few. So during the Memorial Day holiday in 2011, hundreds and hundreds of black people descended on North Avenue Beach and starting beating up people, knocking them off their bikes, wreaking havoc. The next day, the city closed the beach. They said they did it, not because of the mob violence — they denied mob violence even took place there. They said they closed it because it was too hot. A local radio station got the 911 calls, and people who were there called the station, and that showed that the beach was the site of a big civil disturbance, and the police administrators were not telling the truth about it.
FP: Chicago is in the news a lot this year for violence. What kind of job are they doing?
Flaherty: I tell people the following story but I do not expect them to believe it. That is why I put a link to it in the book. So the newly appointed Superintendent of Police is at a meeting and is talking about violence in Chicago and what is responsible. He said Sarah Palin. Just a few weeks ago, he found someone else to blame: The pilgrims. All I can tell you is that I would not have believed it had I not seen it on video. I get a lot of email from police in Chicago. They tell me the same thing others on the front lines all over the country tell me: The situation is very dangerous. And no one knows about it.
FP: How widespread is this problem?
Flaherty: I documented hundreds of examples in more than 70 cities. And here is what happens. I hear about a riot or a mob and I check it out and learn that it was a large group of black people creating havoc. So I write the details. In the course of reporting it, or after the story comes out, I almost always hear: “That’s been happening here a long time.” But reporters are afraid to write about it. City officials are afraid to combat it, or call it by its name. So it goes on. And it is not just the places where you might expect it: Chicago, Philly, Boston, Baltimore. It’s in smaller places in the Midwest as well.
FP: Like where?
Flaherty: Ames, Iowa. They had a “Beat Whitey Night” at the State Fair. Peoria, Illinois. They had almost a dozen episodes of racial violence and lawlessness by black mobs over the last year. Milwaukee. Minneapolis. Seattle. Portland. And on and on.
FP: So what is causing this?
Flaherty: A lot of people in this country are still in a state of denial that these riots and mob lawlessness even exist. So I do not see the point of speculating about cause on something that lots of reporters and political leaders refuse to believe even happen.
Ten years, if we had this conversation, they would have said the same thing: “It’s not happening. You are imagining it.” But today, many of these episodes are on YouTube. And that tells the real story. And part of that story is the reality of the music and video that are a part of their lives. For every horrific example of mob violence and mayhem, there is a popular video by a popular artist glorifying it. Looting, making crack cocaine, killing delivery drivers, beating up white people, rioting and stealing to name a few. These are highly produced, very professional songs and videos by the biggest names in hip hop that sell millions of copies and get millions of views.
Quoting katy_kay08:
this was definitely an interesting read. Dar is your nomme de plume Flaherty?
Why conservatives obsess over flash mobs and “race riots”
How and why the right suddenly became very, very frightened of black people
We get a lot of unsolicited batshit racist email here at Salon HQ, as pretty much all media outlets do, but this one — which went to just about everyone on staff in one form or another — was a good example of not really crafting a message that will convince or appeal to your chosen audience:
Hi Alex,
Thomas Sowell says he did not know how bad racial violence really was until he read “White Girl Bleed a Lot: The Return of Racial Violence to America and How the Media Ignore It.”
From today’s National Review:
Reading Colin Flaherty’s book made painfully clear to me that the magnitude of this problem is greater than I had discovered from my own research. He documents both the race riots and the media and political evasions in dozens of cities across America.
A good recent example of this is from a few weeks ago: The Fourth of July.
Flaherty documents 11 episodes of racial violence from the Fourth of July in Greensboro, Philadelphia, Chicago, Waco, Florida, Georgia, Peoria, Los Angeles, Cleveland and Columbus.
All in one day. There’a a lot more.
Sound like a story?
(That was an email from “Dan Auld.” An identical email from “Margie Warren” was sent to our Laura Miller. Let’s assume both are Colin Flaherty.)
Anyway, sure, it sounds like a story, but not quite the story “Dan” pitched. (Eleven incidents in one day! On one day when nearly everyone in America didn’t have to work or attend school! Eleven separate incidents in a country of 300 million people!) It’s actually the story of how and why the right suddenly became very, very frightened of black people.
So, this Flaherty guy is pretty sure that there’s a black crime wave going on, and also that there is a conspiracy — by the media and the police — to cover up this crime wave by not always pointing out when the perpetrators of crimes are black. His evidence? YouTube clips and newspaper comment sections, mostly. The book seems to be a collection of literally every single crime Flaherty could find, over the last few years, involving black perpetrators and white victims (though some involve incidents where the victims were black, and in many incidents the “victim” was property owned by white people), plus a lot of material on roving, rampaging gangs of black teenagers. Exciting stuff! Look, Thomas Sowell loved it, because it shows how dangerously close we are to an actual racial civil war: