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Christians successfully restore prayer to board meetings
December 9, 2012 at 7:24 AM


The Miami-Dade Board of County Commissioners has voted to restore prayer to open meetings.

In 2004, two members of the board decided they were offended with Christian prayer and successfully lobbied fellow members to open instead with a moment of silence. The Christian Family Coalition got to work and one of the hostile members was replaced with a Christian, as spokesman Anthony Verdugo explains.

Verdugo

"To eliminate religious speech in the form of solemnizing the prayer is discrimination, and so what we told the commissioners is all we want to do is restore free-speech rights and restore speech equality so that everyone can speak openly and freely so long as it's civil discourse," he tells OneNewsNow.

The commission voted 8-3 to restore prayer prior to the roll call for the meeting.

"We are a metropolitan area, but we also have to be an inclusive and welcoming community and we talk about being inclusive and welcoming and tolerant," he says. "That includes people of faith also because we too are part of this community. We're not isolated from it, so our free-speech rights must also be respected and upheld."

Under the policy, the commissioners will select on a rotating basis someone from the area to conduct the prayer -- or commissioners themselves can elect to offer the prayer.

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Replies

  • sweet-a-kins
    December 9, 2012 at 7:29 AM
    It also includes people of OTHER faiths ..are they saying different prayers as well?

    Nope

    So many Christians are bigoted bullies pushing their religious beliefs on others

    Disgusting
  • PortiaRose
    December 9, 2012 at 7:33 AM
    It could go both ways, they just won the tug o war.

    Quoting sweet-a-kins:

    It also includes people of OTHER faiths ..are they saying different prayers as well?



    Nope



    So many Christians are bigoted bullies pushing their religious beliefs on others



    Disgusting
  • sweet-a-kins
    December 9, 2012 at 7:35 AM
    No actually it couldn't

    Prayer has no place in the meeting

    That doesn't attack the Christian with others faith or non faith ...they can still pray during the moment of silence

    But instead they force the public prayer..thu aren't saying everyone's prayer and f*ck the poor folks who don't pray at all



    Quoting PortiaRose:

    It could go both ways, they just won the tug o war.



    Quoting sweet-a-kins:

    It also includes people of OTHER faiths ..are they saying different prayers as well?





    Nope





    So many Christians are bigoted bullies pushing their religious beliefs on others





    Disgusting
  • Jenniy
    by Jenniy
    December 9, 2012 at 7:38 AM
    So if someone wanted to hold a circle and celebrate the God and Goddess, would they be allowed?
  • LilyofPhilly
    December 9, 2012 at 7:40 AM
    But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
    Matthew 6:6.
  • PortiaRose
    December 9, 2012 at 7:40 AM
    You say prayer doesn't belong in the board room. People VOTED (I hear that's big, in america) and now they pray again.

    Quoting sweet-a-kins:

    No actually it couldn't



    Prayer has no place in the meeting



    That doesn't attack the Christian with others faith or non faith ...they can still pray during the moment of silence



    But instead they force the public prayer..thu aren't saying everyone's prayer and f*ck the poor folks who don't pray at all







    Quoting PortiaRose:

    It could go both ways, they just won the tug o war.





    Quoting sweet-a-kins:

    It also includes people of OTHER faiths ..are they saying different prayers as well?







    Nope







    So many Christians are bigoted bullies pushing their religious beliefs on others







    Disgusting
  • Aslen
    by Aslen
    December 9, 2012 at 7:43 AM

    it wasn't a public vote though.

    I don'tmhave an issue with it.... IF they also allow prayers for Allah, prayers for Vishnu, etc.

    But they won't. they WOULD be offended by prayers for Allah, rayers for Vishnu, etc. That's a problem, and a HUGE one

    Quoting PortiaRose:

    You say prayer doesn't belong in the board room. People VOTED (I hear that's big, in america) and now they pray again.

    Quoting sweet-a-kins:

    No actually it couldn't



    Prayer has no place in the meeting



    That doesn't attack the Christian with others faith or non faith ...they can still pray during the moment of silence



    But instead they force the public prayer..thu aren't saying everyone's prayer and f*ck the poor folks who don't pray at all







    Quoting PortiaRose:

    It could go both ways, they just won the tug o war.





    Quoting sweet-a-kins:

    It also includes people of OTHER faiths ..are they saying different prayers as well?







    Nope







    So many Christians are bigoted bullies pushing their religious beliefs on others







    Disgusting


  • sweet-a-kins
    December 9, 2012 at 7:44 AM
    I hear seperation of church and state is bigger

    But f*ck the constitution and all it's damned amendments


    Quoting PortiaRose:

    You say prayer doesn't belong in the board room. People VOTED (I hear that's big, in america) and now they pray again.



    Quoting sweet-a-kins:

    No actually it couldn't





    Prayer has no place in the meeting





    That doesn't attack the Christian with others faith or non faith ...they can still pray during the moment of silence





    But instead they force the public prayer..thu aren't saying everyone's prayer and f*ck the poor folks who don't pray at all











    Quoting PortiaRose:

    It could go both ways, they just won the tug o war.







    Quoting sweet-a-kins:

    It also includes people of OTHER faiths ..are they saying different prayers as well?









    Nope









    So many Christians are bigoted bullies pushing their religious beliefs on others









    Disgusting
  • sweet-a-kins
    December 9, 2012 at 7:45 AM
    No way, they like to pray Steve Martin leap of faith style

    Otherwise what's the point ?

    You know it's all for show for these people


    Quoting LilyofPhilly:

    But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

    Matthew 6:6.
  • candlegal
    December 9, 2012 at 7:52 AM

    It is only big in America if the vote goes the way you wanted it to.

    Quoting PortiaRose:

    You say prayer doesn't belong in the board room. People VOTED (I hear that's big, in america) and now they pray again.

    Quoting sweet-a-kins:

    No actually it couldn't



    Prayer has no place in the meeting



    That doesn't attack the Christian with others faith or non faith ...they can still pray during the moment of silence



    But instead they force the public prayer..thu aren't saying everyone's prayer and f*ck the poor folks who don't pray at all







    Quoting PortiaRose:

    It could go both ways, they just won the tug o war.





    Quoting sweet-a-kins:

    It also includes people of OTHER faiths ..are they saying different prayers as well?







    Nope







    So many Christians are bigoted bullies pushing their religious beliefs on others







    Disgusting