blues_pagan
Pagan mom not allowed to hand out lit at school...
November 22, 2012 at 8:33 PM

after her son brought home a Bible that was given to him at school.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2088912/Pagan-mothers-fury-son-brings-home-Bible-school-witchcraft-books-banned.html

A school is being accused of not letting students practice religious freedom after they refused to let a pagan student's mother give out spell books, despite allowing bibles to be distributed.

Ginger Strivelli, from North Carolina, who practices Witchcraft, a form of Paganism, said she was upset when her 12-year-old son came home from North Windy Ridge intermediate school with a Bible.

She challenged the school about distributing the books, which were donated by the local Gideon group, and has prompted the Buncombe County Board of Education to reevaluate its policies regarding religious texts.

The Gideons International had delivered several boxes of the sacred books to the school office. The staff allowed interested students to stop by and pick them up.

But when Mrs Strivelli showed up at the school with Pagan spell books, she was turned away, despite being assured by the principal the school would make available religious texts donated by any group. 

School: North Windy Ridge intermediate school where children were given Gideon bibles

School: North Windy Ridge intermediate school where children were given Gideon bibles

The district announced in  statement: 'Buncombe County School officials are currently reviewing relevant policies and practices with school board attorneys. 

 

'During this review period, no school in the system will be accepting donations of materials that could be viewed as advocating a particular religion or belief.'

Debate: The handing out of bibles in the school has dragged it into controversy about religious freedom

Debate: The handing out of bibles in the school has dragged it into controversy about religious freedom

The First Amendment gives public schools two clear choices when it comes to the distribution of religious texts.

Michael Broyde, a professor and senior fellow at Emory University's Center for the Study of Law and Religion told Fox News: 'You can either open your public school up to all religious material, or you can say no religious material.

'You can't say, "You can distribute religious material, but only from the good mainstream faiths".

'America runs a grand, noble experiment in religious diversity without violence. There's no killing of the Jews. There's no Catholic-Protestant violence. We are very successful in this grand experiment.'

Ms Strivelli agrees with this stance that it should be all or nothing and said she found many others who agreeds: 'Many Christians have stood up and said they agree with me too. Because, as much as they may like the Bible, they don't want Jehovah's Witnesses coming in with Watch Tower (magazines) or Catholics coming in and having them pray the Rosary.'



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Replies

  • punky3175
    November 22, 2012 at 8:43 PM
    We discussed this when it first happened. Were they really 'spell' books or was it just a book on paganism? And I don't like them being called 'pagan spell books.' All pagans do not 'cast spells.' Also, there is no one book that all Pagans adhere to unlike the Bible is for Christians.

    ETA: Also, handing out 'spell books' doesn't explain Wicca or Paganism. If people don't understand it, it'll just freak them out.
  • blues_pagan
    November 22, 2012 at 8:45 PM

    Cool, I wasn't sure since I wasn't on here back then.  And some people call their Pagan books "spell" books when all they are is really informational type books.  

    And you are right, there is not one book like the Bible for Pagans.  But I still don't get why it is that she wasn't allowed to hand out her literature after the school let the Gideons do so.

    Quoting punky3175:

    We discussed this when it first happened. We're they really 'spell' books or was it just a book on paganism? And I don't like them being called 'pagan spell books.' All pagans do not 'cast spells.' Also, there is no one book that all Pagans adhere to unlike the Bible is for Christians.


  • punky3175
    November 22, 2012 at 8:47 PM
    Because people hear 'spell' or 'witchcraft' and they freak out rather than actually try to learn about it. Especially in small Southern towns. At least they stopped the handing out of all literature at the school.

    Quoting blues_pagan:

    Cool, I wasn't sure since I wasn't on here back then.  And some people call their Pagan books "spell" books when all they are is really informational type books.  

    And you are right, there is not one book like the Bible for Pagans.  But I still don't get why it is that she wasn't allowed to hand out her literature after the school let the Gideons do so.

    Quoting punky3175:

    We discussed this when it first happened. We're they really 'spell' books or was it just a book on paganism? And I don't like them being called 'pagan spell books.' All pagans do not 'cast spells.' Also, there is no one book that all Pagans adhere to unlike the Bible is for Christians.


  • sheila28804
    November 22, 2012 at 8:51 PM

    Their mistake was distributing the bible in the first place.  There is supposed to be a separation of church and state.  I find it humorous that many conservatives are ok with mixing politics and religion but only if it is Christian based.  When some other form of religion comes along, they get bent out of shape.  The principal should have known better than to go down that road and turned away the bible offer.

  • mimismomma123
    November 22, 2012 at 8:52 PM
    I'm Catholic but I do believe that public schools should not be aloud to give out any type of religious books preach celebrate. Too many different people its not far to tell them what they believe is wrong
  • AlekD
    by AlekD
    November 22, 2012 at 8:58 PM
    I would have to know what book she was handing out before casting judgement.
  • blues_pagan
    November 22, 2012 at 8:59 PM

    Why would that matter?

    Quoting AlekD:

    I would have to know what book she was handing out before casting judgement.


  • mikiemom
    November 22, 2012 at 8:59 PM

    Yea, I was like what did she bring in, her own BOS, Morrison, Crowley, Starhawk, Conway - I do think it was done for effect and not to actually teach folks about paganism.

    Quoting punky3175:

    We discussed this when it first happened. Were they really 'spell' books or was it just a book on paganism? And I don't like them being called 'pagan spell books.' All pagans do not 'cast spells.' Also, there is no one book that all Pagans adhere to unlike the Bible is for Christians.

    ETA: Also, handing out 'spell books' doesn't explain Wicca or Paganism. If people don't understand it, it'll just freak them out.


  • LavenderMom23
    November 22, 2012 at 8:59 PM

    It wasn't like they passed the Bibles out in classrooms. It was very respectful, the bibles were left for interested students. Students that took the time to walk themselves into the office. So I would not say they distributed these bibles. They were simply 'made available'. And how many students would voluntarily go in and pick one up? Not many in my area. I would have been okay with all religions dropping off their 'official' book if they have one and this gal could easily have been dismissed bc pagans don't have an official book. It's not about indoctrinating kids, its about supplying materials to those that already want it. Now if they advertised that this was the truth or passed them out it would be a different story.

  • blues_pagan
    November 22, 2012 at 9:02 PM

    So just because Pagans don't have an "official" book means that we have no grounds to try to distribute materials in the same way?  I have a great book called Druid Magic that teaches people about the "magical" side of Pagan Druidism as well as the historical side.  Why shouldn't I be allowed to bring that in to leave out if the school allows Bibles?

    Quoting LavenderMom23:

    It wasn't like they passed the Bibles out in classrooms. It was very respectful, the bibles were left for interested students. Students that took the time to walk themselves into the office. So I would not say they distributed these bibles. They were simply 'made available'. And how many students would voluntarily go in and pick one up? Not many in my area. I would have been okay with all religions dropping off their 'official' book if they have one and this gal could easily have been dismissed bc pagans don't have an official book. It's not about indoctrinating kids, its about supplying materials to those that already want it. Now if they advertised that this was the truth or passed them out it would be a different story.