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The senate passed the tax hike today
November 9, 2012 at 4:32 PM
What are your thoughts? Is it fair to raise taxes to 39.(something)% on people who earn over $250,000 a year, when almost 50% of Americans paid NO federal taxes last year? How many layoffs and closing business do you predict?

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  • luckystars2012
    November 9, 2012 at 5:18 PM
    Everyone else has to pay sales, gas, and property tax as well, on top of their income tax.

    Everyone should pat the same tax percentage, and there should be no such thing as a tax return.


    Quoting SunshneDaydream:

    Everybody does pay taxes, unless they live in a cave.  True, people who don't even make enough money to survive don't have to pay income taxes, but they still pay sales tax, gas tax, and property tax.  

    To the OP, yes, it's fair.  Wealthy people can afford higher taxes, poor people can't afford ANY *income* taxes.  

    Quoting Healthystart30:

    39% taxes is a lot! But no I think everyone should pay taxes, people should definitely not be getting money out that they never put in!



  • NWP
    by NWP
    November 9, 2012 at 5:18 PM

    My dad is a self-made millionare who ran several companies. He would often go for months and months without any salary but still worked 16 hour days just so his employees didn't take the hit.

    Quoting lga1965:

    Well then the owner, the manager, the CEO ...the ones making the big bucks can take a salary cut so they don't have to let anyone go. Its all about greedy people wanting to keep things the way they are and screw the little guys. They need to get over themselves.

    Quoting erika9009:

    And if those tax cuts expiring cost you your job becasue your employer cannot afford to keep you, are you still for letting them expire?

    ( i really do want an answer)


    Quoting NWP:

    I believe that it is fair to let the Bush tax cuts expire for everyone who makes over $250,000 a year.



  • lga1965
    by lga1965
    November 9, 2012 at 5:20 PM
    Wow he is one of a kind, someone who actually cared. I wish there were more men ..and women ...like your Dad!

    Quoting NWP:

    My dad is a self-made millionare who ran several companies. He would often go for months and months without any salary but still worked 16 hour days just so his employees didn't take the hit.

    Quoting lga1965:

    Well then the owner, the manager, the CEO ...the ones making the big bucks can take a salary cut so they don't have to let anyone go. Its all about greedy people wanting to keep things the way they are and screw the little guys. They need to get over themselves.



    Quoting erika9009:

    And if those tax cuts expiring cost you your job becasue your employer cannot afford to keep you, are you still for letting them expire?

    ( i really do want an answer)



    Quoting NWP:

    I believe that it is fair to let the Bush tax cuts expire for everyone who makes over $250,000 a year.



  • meriana
    by meriana
    November 9, 2012 at 5:21 PM


    Quoting erika9009:

    And if those tax cuts expiring cost you your job becasue your employer cannot afford to keep you, are you still for letting them expire?

    ( i really do want an answer)

    Quoting NWP:

    I believe that it is fair to let the Bush tax cuts expire for everyone who makes over $250,000 a year.

     

    The one thing a lot of people don't seem to remember is that the tax RATE is not what is PAID. The wealthy have far more deductions, etc. than the middle or lower income groups to begin with. For instance, people that own a home get the mtg interest deduction. For the majority, that's one deduction for one home, however the wealthy generally have 2 or 3 homes they can claim that deduction for and then they can also claim it for their yacht as long as they've lived on it for at least 2 weeks during the year (vacation time for the average person). They also have other deductions available so in the end, they are not paying the tax RATE at all and it's what is actually PAID that counts. There are millionaires and above who end up getting tax refunds and billion dollar businesses that either end up not owing any income tax or getting a refund. Since the tax RATE is NOT was is actually paid, the idea that someone would lose their job because of what the tax RATE amount is silly. It's an idea pushed by large corporations in an effort to not only keep the rate low but to keep lowering it after all, it means more profit if they can legally zero out their tax liability.

  • AdrianneHill
    November 9, 2012 at 5:22 PM
    That's a regressive tax structure that places undue burden on the poor. They pay a higher percentage of their income on taxes because there is less income. It benefits only the wealthy and lazy to tax this way because it will soon be too expensive for the poor megamajority to buy things to get taxed in the first place.

    Quoting JMmama:

    This. Or get rid of the income tax and make a higher federal sales tax.



    Quoting OHgirlinCA:

     No, it isn't fair.  Everyone should be paying the same percentage across the board.

  • LauraKW
    by LauraKW
    November 9, 2012 at 5:22 PM
    Wait - there was no bill to raise taxes. The tax hike is coming because there is no bill to stop it. What happened today?
  • motherslove82
    November 9, 2012 at 5:23 PM
    This.

    Quoting OHgirlinCA:

     No, it isn't fair.  Everyone should be paying the same percentage across the board.

  • Dzyre1115
    November 9, 2012 at 5:24 PM

     I really am anxious to see the fallout from this.....it should be a good show!

  • SunshneDaydream
    November 9, 2012 at 5:24 PM

    Live 1 year as a person who makes $7.50 and hour and has to support a family and then tell me that everyone should pay the same tax rate.  SMH. 

    Quoting luckystars2012:

    Everyone else has to pay sales, gas, and property tax as well, on top of their income tax.

    Everyone should pat the same tax percentage, and there should be no such thing as a tax return.


    Quoting SunshneDaydream:

    Everybody does pay taxes, unless they live in a cave.  True, people who don't even make enough money to survive don't have to pay income taxes, but they still pay sales tax, gas tax, and property tax.  

    To the OP, yes, it's fair.  Wealthy people can afford higher taxes, poor people can't afford ANY *income* taxes.  

    Quoting Healthystart30:

    39% taxes is a lot! But no I think everyone should pay taxes, people should definitely not be getting money out that they never put in!




  • NWP
    by NWP
    November 9, 2012 at 5:25 PM

    He was pragmatic. He would drop his prices and take jobs just to keep his guys working, sometimes at a loss to him. More than just supporting his workers, he was (in his mind I know more importantly) able to keep his client base up and maintain his corner on the market even during a down economy.


    Quoting lga1965:

    Wow he is one of a kind, someone who actually cared. I wish there were more men ..and women ...like your Dad!

    Quoting NWP:

    My dad is a self-made millionare who ran several companies. He would often go for months and months without any salary but still worked 16 hour days just so his employees didn't take the hit.

    Quoting lga1965:

    Well then the owner, the manager, the CEO ...the ones making the big bucks can take a salary cut so they don't have to let anyone go. Its all about greedy people wanting to keep things the way they are and screw the little guys. They need to get over themselves.



    Quoting erika9009:

    And if those tax cuts expiring cost you your job becasue your employer cannot afford to keep you, are you still for letting them expire?

    ( i really do want an answer)



    Quoting NWP:

    I believe that it is fair to let the Bush tax cuts expire for everyone who makes over $250,000 a year.




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