Jesi_79
Cry baby Chris Matthews accidentally tells the truth
by Jesi_79
October 4, 2012 at 6:18 AM

 While crying about Obama's lackluster performance in the debate last night Chris Matthews accidentally told the thruth about MSNBC.

"Tonight wasn't an MSNBC debate tonight, was it?" Chris Matthews said after the first Obama-Romney presidential debate concluded on Wednesday night.

"I don't know what he was doing out there. He had his head down, he was enduring the debate rather than fighting it. Romney, on the other hand, came in with a campaign. He had a plan, he was going to dominate the time, he was going to be aggressive, he was going to push the moderator around, which he did effectively, he was going to relish the evening, enjoying it," Matthews said.

"Here's my question for Obama: I know he likes saying he doesn't watch cable television but maybe he should start. Maybe he should start. I don't know how he let Romney get away with the crap he throughout tonight about Social Security," Matthews complained.

Matthews then demanded that President Obama start watching cable news, specifically his program.

"Where was Obama tonight? He should watch -- well, not just Hardball, Rachel, he should watch you, he should watch the Reverend Al [Sharpton], he should watch Lawrence. He would learn something about this debate. There's a hot debate going on in this country. You know where it's been held? Here on this network is where we're having the debate," Matthews said.

"We have our knives out," Matthews said, admitting his network is trying their best to defend Obama and his policies. "We go after the people and the facts. What was he doing tonight? He went in there disarmed."

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Matthews admit that at MSNBC they attack the people, and the facts, that don't agree with their narrative.  He also admits, with encouragement from Rachel Maddow and Ed Schultz, that MSNBC is in the tank for Obama.   He also indicates that the MSNBC moderators woud be less than impartial, taking a more active role int he debate... perhaps he should learn about debates and the role of the moderator.  

However, his accidental truth is hidden in the litany of lies about Romney and the way he dominated the time and bullied the moderator, when in fact he was respectful.  If you can stomach Chris Matthews in his whiny meltdown the video shows shows it live on air... a far cry from "I've got tingles running down my leg".

Replies

  • grandmab125
    October 5, 2012 at 2:30 AM


    Quoting DSamuels:

    And how do you think they will control Medicare spending? Probably by cherry picking patients treatment. I don't see any other logical way of doing it, except to tell drs and hospitals that they'll pay even less.

    Wait, if they pay even less, then less drs and hospitals will accept Medicare, thus cutting and cherry picking patient treatment.

    Quoting Karen_Dover:

    Also, speaking of lying through his TEETH- Mitt Romney brought up the Independent Advisory Board for the ACA, calling it " a board that can tell people ultimately what treatments they're going to receive" which is TOTAL BS. The Independent Payment Advisory Board is set up to control Medicare spending growth annually, not to cherry pick patients' treatments. He is totally preying on elderly people's fears.


    Because Medicare already puts pressure on hospitals to release patients too early, many of them return within a month.  Under Obamacare, hospitals that have to re-admit Medicare patients will be penalized every time they do.  Both drs and the hospitals will be hit with fines.  Ergo, hospitals are going to be hesitant to admit seniors through ERs in the first place.  Obamacare also will freeze dr reimbursement rates, and actually cutting specialists reimbursements in half.

    Many drs have already stopped taking on new Medicare patients because of Obamacare, and some are dropping the ones they've had for years.  A lot of drs saw this coming years ago.  That's where "concierge"  medicine came from.  They don't accept insurance.  You pay cash.  If Obamacare stays in, someday, we'll have a two tiered health care system.  One for the rich who can pay for the best, and the other for everyone else.....

  • Karen_Dover
    October 5, 2012 at 7:56 AM

    No, Medicare benefits are protected by law. They control Medicare spending by controlling payouts to private insurance companies and large provider groups like hospitals, where they are negotiable.

    Quoting DSamuels:

    And how do you think they will control Medicare spending? Probably by cherry picking patients treatment. I don't see any other logical way of doing it, except to tell drs and hospitals that they'll pay even less.

    Wait, if they pay even less, then less drs and hospitals will accept Medicare, thus cutting and cherry picking patient treatment.

    Quoting Karen_Dover:

    Also, speaking of lying through his TEETH- Mitt Romney brought up the Independent Advisory Board for the ACA, calling it " a board that can tell people ultimately what treatments they're going to receive" which is TOTAL BS. The Independent Payment Advisory Board is set up to control Medicare spending growth annually, not to cherry pick patients' treatments. He is totally preying on elderly people's fears.



  • Karen_Dover
    October 5, 2012 at 8:08 AM


    The fines for readmission are meant to force hospitals to actually find a solution for patients rather than just process them through the system so they can bill again for services later, and only habitual offenders will be fined. The point is to reduce wasteful spending and fraud. And it's illegal to turn anyone away from an ER, so that won't happen. They are paying HOSPITALS less, but that well offsets the cost of all of the free emergency services they will no longer have to perform. By the way, the mandate makes healthcare rationing ILLEGAL, so cherry-picking of services won't happen, either.

    I work with doctors, a lot of them don't enroll in Medicare because it's a pain in the ass, not because of Obamacare. Compared to Medicaid the payments are pretty good, Medicare actually sets a standard for the rest of insurance companies to base their costs off of.

    Quoting grandmab125:


    Quoting DSamuels:

    And how do you think they will control Medicare spending? Probably by cherry picking patients treatment. I don't see any other logical way of doing it, except to tell drs and hospitals that they'll pay even less.

    Wait, if they pay even less, then less drs and hospitals will accept Medicare, thus cutting and cherry picking patient treatment.

    Quoting Karen_Dover:

    Also, speaking of lying through his TEETH- Mitt Romney brought up the Independent Advisory Board for the ACA, calling it " a board that can tell people ultimately what treatments they're going to receive" which is TOTAL BS. The Independent Payment Advisory Board is set up to control Medicare spending growth annually, not to cherry pick patients' treatments. He is totally preying on elderly people's fears.


    Because Medicare already puts pressure on hospitals to release patients too early, many of them return within a month.  Under Obamacare, hospitals that have to re-admit Medicare patients will be penalized every time they do.  Both drs and the hospitals will be hit with fines.  Ergo, hospitals are going to be hesitant to admit seniors through ERs in the first place.  Obamacare also will freeze dr reimbursement rates, and actually cutting specialists reimbursements in half.

    Many drs have already stopped taking on new Medicare patients because of Obamacare, and some are dropping the ones they've had for years.  A lot of drs saw this coming years ago.  That's where "concierge"  medicine came from.  They don't accept insurance.  You pay cash.  If Obamacare stays in, someday, we'll have a two tiered health care system.  One for the rich who can pay for the best, and the other for everyone else.....


  • Aislinn
    by Aislinn
    October 5, 2012 at 9:01 AM


    Quoting Karen_Dover:

    Just curious-what do you think President Obama is lying about? 

    Quoting Aislinn:


    Quoting Karen_Dover:

    That's actually not true. The impending tax increases are large, but not anywhere near as large as the largest tax increase in history, which happened right after World War II, to pay for the war. It was Rush Limbaugh who originally stated it was the largest tax increase in history, and we all know he's an idiot. http://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/biggest-tax-increase-in-history/

    Quoting Aislinn:


    Quoting sweet-a-kins:

    Romney came on and lied. His own advisor already admitted his plan will NOT cover pre existing conditions

     Just like Barry is telling people this is affordable health care, but in reality his lawyers argued that is was, in fact, a tax in front of SCOTUS? And, in reality, this will be the largest TAX ever to be FORCED upon the American people? Seriously, now... 


     Ok. Does the SECOND largest tax increase, ever, make you feel better? It sure as hell does not make me feel better. I mean, how ridiculous. THAT is what you choose to pick on? Not the FACT that he is calling it affordable health care, when it will be the largest tax increase the last three generations have ever seen, so far? You bring up a tax from WW2 when most of us did not exist?  Really? So, fine. Second largest. Still just as bad and Barry is still lying through his teeth. That fact sure as hell has not changed, now has it?


     I do not have time to list everything that man is lying about and all you suckers are buying hook, line and sinker. I will say he has, many times, said Obamacare is NOT a tax. He then had his lawyers argue in front of SCOTUS that it was a tax and therefore, that is why it was deemed Constitutional. Some of you need to pay the hell attention for ONCE in your lives. 

  • DSamuels
    October 5, 2012 at 10:26 AM
    I know this firsthand sadly. My 90 year old dad had heart surgery in Feb, spent almost a month in ICUS and was then transferred to a skilled nursing facility which in reality was a nursing home for rehab. Nineteen days later they sent him to a different hospital in respirtory distress and his blood sugar was around 19, which of course the nursing home denied. Surprisingly his mind and speech were much clearer once he got treatment. Ultimately a week later we made the decision to enroll him in hospice.

    I sincerely believe the nursing home did little or nothing to rehab him. They were getting paid by Medicare to care for him for 90 days, although he was supposed to show progress to stay. He had rehab for about an hour a day and the other 23 hours laid in bed. After the 90 days for him to stay would have cost $200 a day, that he would have had to pay. $6000 a month on an income of around $1800 a month?


    Quoting grandmab125:



    Quoting DSamuels:


    And how do you think they will control Medicare spending? Probably by cherry picking patients treatment. I don't see any other logical way of doing it, except to tell drs and hospitals that they'll pay even less.


    Wait, if they pay even less, then less drs and hospitals will accept Medicare, thus cutting and cherry picking patient treatment.


    Quoting Karen_Dover:


    Also, speaking of lying through his TEETH- Mitt Romney brought up the Independent Advisory Board for the ACA, calling it " a board that can tell people ultimately what treatments they're going to receive" which is TOTAL BS. The Independent Payment Advisory Board is set up to control Medicare spending growth annually, not to cherry pick patients' treatments. He is totally preying on elderly people's fears.




    Because Medicare already puts pressure on hospitals to release patients too early, many of them return within a month.  Under Obamacare, hospitals that have to re-admit Medicare patients will be penalized every time they do.  Both drs and the hospitals will be hit with fines.  Ergo, hospitals are going to be hesitant to admit seniors through ERs in the first place.  Obamacare also will freeze dr reimbursement rates, and actually cutting specialists reimbursements in half.


    Many drs have already stopped taking on new Medicare patients because of Obamacare, and some are dropping the ones they've had for years.  A lot of drs saw this coming years ago.  That's where "concierge"  medicine came from.  They don't accept insurance.  You pay cash.  If Obamacare stays in, someday, we'll have a two tiered health care system.  One for the rich who can pay for the best, and the other for everyone else.....