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What a mess. This is scary . I HATE abortion But I LOVE women and they should all have ACCESS to birth control. How did things go so wrong?
The article is extremely long so I am including the link and some pieces of the article. i just think that being pro-life shouldn't mean people cut all funding and availability of BIRT CONTROL , it's wrong and could cause more expensive problems later. Yes I want women to not abort their children but isn't it best, all the way around, if they can get birth control and not get pregnant when they aren't willing to or able to support children?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/05/us-states-slash-birth-control-idUSTRE8240ZM20120305
(Reuters) - Even as a national debate rages over contraception insurance, tens of thousands of low-income women and teenagers across the United States have lost access to subsidized birth control as states slash and restructure family planning funds.
the Texas funding cut prompted Planned Parenthood to shut down 11 clinics. It also has jeopardized a $40 million family-planning program run as a Medicaid extension.
The program provides free birth control and annual exams to 130,000 low-income women of reproductive age who don't qualify for regular Medicaid. The federal government pays 90 percent of the cost; Texas puts up just $4 million a year.
About 40 percent of women in the Texas program get subsidized care from Planned Parenthood clinics, but a new state law blocks those clinics from participating. The Obama administration has said that violates federal Medicaid rules. If neither side compromises, the program will likely close by the end of March.
That infuriates Jonee Longoria, a single mother in Houston who relied on the program for free services for several years as she put herself through college. "I had one child living in poverty and I didn't want another," Longoria said.
She now works for a social service agency and refers many clients to the program for contraception. Without it, she said, "where would they go?"
Advocates of defunding Planned Parenthood say they regret any service disruptions for poor women. But they call it a necessary price to pay to take a moral stance on abortion.
"We're just doing what we think is best," said Joe Pojman, executive director of Texas Alliance for Life,
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Quoting kansasmom1978:
The answer to abortion is to teach women to respect their bodies. Not sleep with someone if they are not ready to be a parent.
im in a commited relationship, and i dont know if i want any more kids. i have a ss. i think i want kids. but i we may decide one is enough. should we never have sex again? -
people that are pro-life that are against bc are against it for religious reasons (the only acceptable BC in their opinion is abstinance, and a married womens body is for procreating).
That said, not ALL pro-life advocates believe this.. even if they are religious.
(I'm pro-choice though)
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a saw a picture on FB just a minute ago of a bumper sticker....
"I'll pay for your contraception when you pay for my ammunition"
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Spontaneous abortions are quite frequent, but are an act of God, and therefore, we are not held accountable for them. I feel sad that you feel such disregard for life. You, too, were just a few cells and were given the best blessing of all. Life.
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Very few people in the pro-life movement believe ALL forms of birth control are immoral. We catholics believe that all artificial forms of birth control (all accept natural family planning, which is NOT btw the "rhthym method") are immoral because most are abortifacients (some of the time) and they all reject life, as a gift from God. Using artifical forms imply that all hope in the goodness of God (and that God will ultimately provide, like He said He would) is wasted hope. We also believe that women's bodies are for much more than just procreating; and that sex within marriage is for procreating with GOD and for pleasure. You should read "Theology of the Body" by Pope John Paul II. You would be amazed at what the church actually teaches about sex.
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98 percent of Catholics use birth control,
Quoting astenken:
Very few people in the pro-life movement believe ALL forms of birth control are immoral. We catholics believe that all artificial forms of birth control (all accept natural family planning, which is NOT btw the "rhthym method") are immoral because most are abortifacients (some of the time) and they all reject life, as a gift from God. Using artifical forms imply that all hope in the goodness of God (and that God will ultimately provide, like He said He would) is wasted hope. We also believe that women's bodies are for much more than just procreating; and that sex within marriage is for procreating with GOD and for pleasure. You should read "Theology of the Body" by Pope John Paul II. You would be amazed at what the church actually teaches about sex.
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I will be happy to give you some background information showing that Obama is ok with aborting babies that have been born/survive or survive abortion attempt on their life:
Source: FactCheck.org analysis of 2008 Saddleback joint appearance Aug 16, 2008
In 1997, Obama voted in the Illinois Senate against SB 230, a bill designed to prevent partial-birth abortions. In the US Senate, Obama has consistently voted to expand embryonic stem cell research. He has voted against requiring minors who get out-of-state abortions to notify their parents. The1997: opposed bill preventing partial-birth abortion Check out this article: http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/obama-live-born-abortion/2009/12/12/id/341621 another article by FactCheck.org: http://factcheck.org/2008/08/obama-and-infanticide/ There are more In partial birth abortions the babies are allowed to be 'born' until their head is appearing or to the navel then they are killed before they completely leave the body. see and read this page where Pres Bush signed the ban on partial birth abortions. http://voices.yahoo.com/barack-hussein-obama-jr-defends-partial-birth-abortion-102246.html Be sure and read the whole article. -
Quoting MomOwl:
a saw a picture on FB just a minute ago of a bumper sticker....
"I'll pay for your contraception when you pay for my ammunition"
That makes no sense at all. I think to many separate issues are getting mixed up into this.
Catholic institutions do not have to pay for birth control .
Women who work Earn their insurance it's part of the package ; pay , benefits , vacation time etc , the issue in the OP is cutting funding to clinics , clinics that provide overall women's health services and MY tax dollars pay into just the same as everyone else's . Since when did we get to pick and choose where every penny goes? The government is supposed to be concerned with what is best for the countries people overall , considering 99% of women use health services including birth control. It seems obvious that continuing to make that health care accessible to all women should be a priority.
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You're being far too logical. No conception = no abortion. Too easy.
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Quoting MomOwl:
a saw a picture on FB just a minute ago of a bumper sticker....
"I'll pay for your contraception when you pay for my ammunition"
yeah that's just about as idiotic as you can get.