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Lillymygirl
THIS is NOT an answer for abortion.
March 5, 2012 at 1:43 PM

What a mess. This is scary . I HATE abortion But I LOVE women and they should all have ACCESS to birth control. How did things go so wrong?

The article is extremely long so I am including the link and some pieces of the article. i just think that being pro-life shouldn't mean people cut all funding and availability of BIRT CONTROL , it's wrong and could cause more expensive problems later. Yes I want women to not abort their children but isn't it best, all the way around, if they can get birth control and not get pregnant when they aren't willing to or able to support children? 



http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/05/us-states-slash-birth-control-idUSTRE8240ZM20120305

Mon Mar 5, 2012 10:41am EST

(Reuters) - Even as a national debate rages over contraception insurance, tens of thousands of low-income women and teenagers across the United States have lost access to subsidized birth control as states slash and restructure family planning funds.


the Texas funding cut prompted Planned Parenthood to shut down 11 clinics. It also has jeopardized a $40 million family-planning program run as a Medicaid extension.

The program provides free birth control and annual exams to 130,000 low-income women of reproductive age who don't qualify for regular Medicaid. The federal government pays 90 percent of the cost; Texas puts up just $4 million a year.

About 40 percent of women in the Texas program get subsidized care from Planned Parenthood clinics, but a new state law blocks those clinics from participating. The Obama administration has said that violates federal Medicaid rules. If neither side compromises, the program will likely close by the end of March.

That infuriates Jonee Longoria, a single mother in Houston who relied on the program for free services for several years as she put herself through college. "I had one child living in poverty and I didn't want another," Longoria said.

She now works for a social service agency and refers many clients to the program for contraception. Without it, she said, "where would they go?"

Advocates of defunding Planned Parenthood say they regret any service disruptions for poor women. But they call it a necessary price to pay to take a moral stance on abortion.

"We're just doing what we think is best," said Joe Pojman, executive director of Texas Alliance for Life, 

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  • alwayskk
    March 5, 2012 at 2:04 PM

    This just disgusts me. We're not talking about the government paying for birth control for everyone. We're talking about paying for a portion of birth control for the very segment of the population who should be using it!

    It's time to start making our laws based on logic, rationality and human dignity rather than knee-jerk reaction, emotion, or logical fallacy. DANG IT!

  • Lishes
    by Lishes
    March 5, 2012 at 2:05 PM

     Yes planned parenthood does offer it at discounted rates, funding picks up the remainder of the cost.

    Quoting notjstanothrmom:

    I'm honestly not too educated on how Planned Parenthood gets their funding, but I do know they accept state insurance. I think state health is an amazing thing, but I don't think that it needs to pay for birth control.

    I know that NFP isn't for everyone, but birth control isn't a crazy cost either. I *think* Planned Parenthood offers it at a discount cost to people without insurance so $10-15 a month I don't think is an undo able cost for anyone.

    Quoting HistoryNutty:

    I thought Planned Parenthood was a private organization?

    Also, natural family planning isn't for everyone. I can't do it because my periods are so irregular. Also, without being on the pill I wouldn't be able to do anything during my period past curling up in my bed in the dark with a therma care pack.

    Even though I'm on tricare, I used to go to planned parenthood for my pap smears and for my birth control. My husband and I were already married, but didn't want kids.


    Quoting notjstanothrmom:

    I think people should have access to health care but I don't nessesarily think that birth control or abortion should be funded by state/government run programs. It costs under $30 a month to pay for birth control, if you don't want to get pregnant then that $30 a month is well worth the cost.

    I also use NFP to prevent pregnancy. It's free.


     

  • Lillymygirl
    March 5, 2012 at 2:05 PM


    Quoting -Chaotic-:

    If you want to cut funding, go at it, but try cutting it where it won't cause bigger and more expensive issues down the line. Don't they think ahead?!

    That's what I am thinking. 

    Like I said I don't understand all the federal funding regulations and how it all ties in but it seems to me ( and I am sure someone will explain it if I am wrong) that many pro life organizations and individuals really hate planned parenthood because they do abortion (I don't so much like that part myself) but the federal funding can NOT be used for abortion , yet these organizations have lobbied to cut the money sent to planned parenthood anyway and therefore there will now be thousands and thousands of women who can not afford paps and birth control etc . I also believe the article is saying Texas will be hit very hard by these cuts but also so will other areas. 


  • notjstanothrmom
    March 5, 2012 at 2:05 PM

    Then they should go to the library and learn about NFP or refrain until they can afford it. I know what it's like to have no money but if you can get yourself to Planned Parenthood, then you can scrape up $10 and pay for a pack of pills that could prevent you from getting pregnant. If not, they offer free condoms which will also protect you from STD's.

    Quoting Lillymygirl:


    Quoting notjstanothrmom:

    I am pro-life and will not use birth control for contraceptive because personally it is basically like an abortion *to me* if my baby cannot implant. I do believe everyone should have access to birth control and everyone will, but I don't feel it's the governments place to provide these services because birth control is very affordable anyways.

    Quoting randi1978:

    How are they "doing what's right" by making it harder for women to access contraceptives?

    Oh, wait.....even birth control is abortion to some of them backwoods yahoo's.....Single women are supposed to be nuns until Prince fucking Charming comes along with a marriage proposal.


    If people can not afford it then they can not afford it.


    The state network, which once provided 220,000 women a year free and low-cost birth control, cervical cancer tests and diabetes screenings, will now serve just 40,000 to 60,000, officials said.




  • cLanief
    by cLanief
    March 5, 2012 at 2:06 PM



    Quoting couponluv72:

    sheer idiocy


  • HistoryNutty
    March 5, 2012 at 2:06 PM
    I got mine for free from them. We made under a certain amount and so they gave me what looked like a state insurance card, except it was green, not white. I didn't know how much birth control was. We could afford that, now, but I still get it for free from tricare. Before my hubby joined the military, we couldn't afford that. I did always grab a handful of condoms on my out though, I would give them to his cousins.

    Quoting notjstanothrmom:

    I'm honestly not too educated on how Planned Parenthood gets their funding, but I do know they accept state insurance. I think state health is an amazing thing, but I don't think that it needs to pay for birth control.

    I know that NFP isn't for everyone, but birth control isn't a crazy cost either. I *think* Planned Parenthood offers it at a discount cost to people without insurance so $10-15 a month I don't think is an undo able cost for anyone.

    Quoting HistoryNutty:

    I thought Planned Parenthood was a private organization?



    Also, natural family planning isn't for everyone. I can't do it because my periods are so irregular. Also, without being on the pill I wouldn't be able to do anything during my period past curling up in my bed in the dark with a therma care pack.



    Even though I'm on tricare, I used to go to planned parenthood for my pap smears and for my birth control. My husband and I were already married, but didn't want kids.




    Quoting notjstanothrmom:

    I think people should have access to health care but I don't nessesarily think that birth control or abortion should be funded by state/government run programs. It costs under $30 a month to pay for birth control, if you don't want to get pregnant then that $30 a month is well worth the cost.

    I also use NFP to prevent pregnancy. It's free.


  • alwayskk
    March 5, 2012 at 2:08 PM

    Eeeek. I'm in TX and have gotten my birth control from PP before.

    It's $10-$15 a month for those whom they have deemed can afford it. I've gotten birth control from them before when I couldn't afford it, under the Women's Health Program which was cut. That was actually cut a year or two ago. Now they are making additional cuts to medicaid. 

    Quoting notjstanothrmom:

    I'm honestly not too educated on how Planned Parenthood gets their funding, but I do know they accept state insurance. I think state health is an amazing thing, but I don't think that it needs to pay for birth control.

    I know that NFP isn't for everyone, but birth control isn't a crazy cost either. I *think* Planned Parenthood offers it at a discount cost to people without insurance so $10-15 a month I don't think is an undo able cost for anyone.

    Quoting HistoryNutty:

    I thought Planned Parenthood was a private organization?

    Also, natural family planning isn't for everyone. I can't do it because my periods are so irregular. Also, without being on the pill I wouldn't be able to do anything during my period past curling up in my bed in the dark with a therma care pack.

    Even though I'm on tricare, I used to go to planned parenthood for my pap smears and for my birth control. My husband and I were already married, but didn't want kids.


    Quoting notjstanothrmom:

    I think people should have access to health care but I don't nessesarily think that birth control or abortion should be funded by state/government run programs. It costs under $30 a month to pay for birth control, if you don't want to get pregnant then that $30 a month is well worth the cost.

    I also use NFP to prevent pregnancy. It's free.



  • art.diva
    March 5, 2012 at 2:08 PM
    Here's the kicker. Recently I've heard a lot of complaining that its minorities making up our lower class and using welfare. And I've heard complaining that white people are becoming the minority. Now without the government handouts in the form of contraceptives, there will be a major influx if poor people and, by their logic, a major influx of colored people...thus quickly making white people the strict minority. Why can't the people whining about all this see their flawed logic? Sort of like how we're now seeing the repercussions of the anti-illegal immigrant movement.
  • notjstanothrmom
    March 5, 2012 at 2:08 PM

    Anyone with a job should be able to come up with $10 a month.

    I strongly believe that PP could also get private funding.

    I am 23 with two kids, I know what it's like to have no money, but I could always cut something to be able to afford birth control if I needed to. If someone truly, truly can't afford it and doesn't want to get pregnant then they need to use the free condoms PP provides, learn about NFP at the library, or refrain from sex until they find a job.

    Quoting Mamie_85:

    Very affordable for who?


    Quoting notjstanothrmom:

    I am pro-life and will not use birth control for contraceptive because personally it is basically like an abortion *to me* if my baby cannot implant. I do believe everyone should have access to birth control and everyone will, but I don't feel it's the governments place to provide these services because birth control is very affordable anyways.

    Quoting randi1978:

    How are they "doing what's right" by making it harder for women to access contraceptives?

    Oh, wait.....even birth control is abortion to some of them backwoods yahoo's.....Single women are supposed to be nuns until Prince fucking Charming comes along with a marriage proposal.




  • Lillymygirl
    March 5, 2012 at 2:08 PM

    Is this directed at me?

    Quoting melelaine:

    Not everyone that has an unplanned pregnancy is single and sleeping around. Great generalization, you must be a Saint. Sorry I don't plan when to have sex with my hubby, we have more passion in our marriage than that.


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