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I didn't care about this stuff, until I found out some friends and family got sick from drinking it....So I looked into this "all natural/ safe" product...There is alot I know that the ppl selling it and taking it don't....I'll tell you a few..There are at least 3 appetite suppressants in it..
In the mix, so far I found 2 appetite suppressants..(Oxypregnane Steroidal Glyoside) (plant extract) . this is from the Hoodia plant and( Citrin k..).
Citrin K caught my eye, so I started researching this..It comes from a fruit known as the Garcinia cambogia, or known as the Malabar Tamarind..They get Citrin K from the rind of this fruit that is full of Hydroxycitric Acid ..Does anyone know what Hydroxycitric Acid is...Well I'll tell you..
Hydroxycitric Acid is what gave the diet supplement Hydroxycut it's name....The FDA pulled it from the shelves after a 19 yr old died and other ppl starting having problems with their liver.. it also had ephedra in it, which is now banned.. When the company disclosed the list of ingredients in Hydroxycut, the FDA MADE them take hydroxycitric acid out, because it is liked to Liver damage, muscle and Kidney disease, cardiovascular crises and siezures....since they revamped it, it's now back on the shelves..
There are a few names it goes by to disquise Hydroxycitric Acid ...Don't take my word for it though, all you have to do is look into all the ingredients in the pink drink and not just go by what the company site tells you....one of their sites will tell you that Hydroxycinnamic Acid is NOT liked to Hydroxycut..that's because Hydroxycinnamic acid is derived from Cinnamon.. which is good for weight loss on it's own..
The Accelerator pill has 2 more appetite suppressants in it.. More of the Hoodia( which I found in the Propietary Blend) and something called Phenylethlamine HCL..the more I looked into the Phenylethlamine, I also found the they also use this as a componant in anti-depressants...
Like I said, I'm still researching this stuff.. I can't find if there are clinical and scientific studies done on it,other than what the company itself did..
I don't take it, but was asked why I care about this.. It's only because I have 7 family /and friends who got sick from it ( prolly more than that) and I know more that is taking it..I don't want to see ppl i care about get sick... I'm not trying to tell ppl what to do... So if I can share what I've found and it helps someone, then I feel I've done a good thing..
So if you are drinking it and experience, headaches, diareaha/ explosive diareaha, fatigue, or constipation, abdominal cramping, bloating, excess gas.ect...this is prolly why...
Some one called the company and asked them about the Citrin k in it.. And the guy told them that it was safe for both liver and kidney..?????? He is CRAZY!. lol.. of course he's not going to say it's bad for you.. so please, don't take my word for it...I've looked at multiple sites and are still looking...I heard someone lost 14lbs in 6 days drinking Plexus Slim.. Do you think that much weight loss is really healthy??? You will lose LOTS of water weight first and if you stop drinking it, you will def gain it all back because you've been dehydrating and starving your body..
....You have to consume calories in order to lose weight..Ppl that are drinking it is being told that is safe and natural and it only targets your adipose fat and won't damage muscle tissue.. Adipose fat, is just a fancy word for fat cells..Yes, too much of it can lead to diseases..There being told you don't have to stop eating what your eating or even exercise.. You can even drink it while your Pregnant, let your kids drink it,it's so safe (why would anyone want to lose weight while pregnant?)..Citrin K is bad for pregnant woman and kids..
Safe and healthy weight loss is about 2-3 lbs a wk.( You have to consume at least 3,500 calories in order to lose one pound)..you have to eat in order to burn calories..starving yourself does not burn calories, your body will go into survival mode and start storing fat because it thinks it's starving.( Just look up what rapid weight loss does to your body)...To lose weight healthy,drink lots of water, eat right, exercise, at least walking , eating raw fruits and veggies, stop the soft drinks and fast food........If something like this "Pink Drink" sounds too good to be true, I'll tell you.. It is too good to be true... I hope this helps someone..
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After reading the original article and responses I was compelled to respond. I am a pharmacist and would like to point out there is a difference between opinions and facts and they shouldn't get confused. Everyone is entitled to their opinions but are also entitled to the facts. I will try to be brief but must admit I have a fair bit to comment on and feel it is necessary to do so. I am not trying to pick on anyone in particular but will address certain posts.
WhoDatMom9
The first thing I want to point out is there is a big difference between safety and side effects. Just because it it a natural product does not mean that there will be no side effects. Just because there are side effects does not mean the product is not safe. The most common side effects a person will get are going to be related to the stomach. This is because of how the different ingredients work. If you absorb less sugar and fat it has to go somewhere. This may cause constipation or diarrhea, depending on the individual person. There is potential to help the liver work more efficiently which again is going to result in changes in the bowels. There could also be cramping, gas and general nausea. This should go away over time once your body is accustomed to the product and your system works more efficiently. If it is making someone throw up, then I can see a concern. But again, it's a side effect and not related to the safety of the product. When people take prescriptions and get the same symptoms they know that it should ease over time. If you get an upset stomach from an antibiotic do you stop taking it thinking it's unsafe.
Also I would like to point out kidney versus liver damage. The majority of the Plexus Slim is put through the liver. A product will not typically affect both the kidneys and the liver since as a rule it is only excreted one way. Obviously when putting multiple compounds together the chance of getting both is higher but Plexus Slim is mainly excreted via the liver. There is research done on how Chlorogenic Acid affects the liver in a positive way. Will this cause liver damage in some individuals? I don't know, but I also don't know if you are going to die tomorrow of diabetes.
Next comes the ideas with the Citrin K and junglebook has done an awesome job of explaining things and saves me a lot of typing. The overall cases of liver problems, even if all the cases were due to the product and nothing else, is very low and in fact lower then the chance of liver problems from some prescriptions that are commonly used. There are a lot of factors that need to be taken into account. Hydroxycut was used heavily by weight lifters and those that who may not even need to lose weight and often in doses higher then recommended. Another question is how many of these people drink alcohol, which has a higher chance of causing liver damage then hydroxycut does, again assuming the cases were only because of the hydroxycut and we know they weren't. Who on this forum drinks alcohol?
As far as studies, no there are not a lot done, but if you look at the history of the San Bushmen, there is a lot on Hoodia. Much of what we see today are personal testimonies by those that have taken the product. As individual components, many of these have been around for a long time. There are some small independent trials that have been done and their results are published but until the FDA gets in their minds that there may be better things out there that may do more then just treat symptoms, which is mostly all prescriptions do, you will not see big studies.
It amazes me how little value people put on their health. If you find Plexus Slim expensive then I assume you do not suffer from health concerns that are a result of being overweight. For me, if I didn't have insurance I would spend around $600.00 per month on medication. Some of these could be eliminated by losing weight. The long term health benefits are also well worth it. If I live even an extra 6 months because of losing weight, do you not think the payout is worth it. I do. I can never understand why people would rather pay $100.00 on a prescription which only masks symptoms then $100.00 on health product which has the potential to overall improve your health. Shouldn't be a hard decision to make. Sadly I know WhoDatMom9's mind will not be changed by what I have to say because no matter what I say something else will be wrong with it. There are a number of people in this world that once their mind is made up there will always be excuses why they can't do it.
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Next comes information on phenylethylamine. This compound is found in high concentration in chocolate. Who on this forum eats chocolate? Yes, phenylethylamine is related to anti-depressants on the market today. The reason for this is because it increases certain neurotransmitters in the brain that give a stimulatory effect. If you take decongestants you are taking a similar product. Some people who have weight issues also have issues with depression. Maybe there is a benefit in taking this product. Who knows. I must also point out this product clearly states who it is intended for.
As far as how much weight is safe to lose. Two pounds a week is the ideal amount but when first starting Plexus Slim there is a chance to lose more then that. At the start it is based on the amount of fluid in your body. If you retain a lot of fluid then yes there may be a high amount of weight loss. This will slow down over time to a more ideal weight loss. Rapid weight loss due to excess fluid and rapid weight loss due to starving your body of food are completely different. If rapid weight loss is continued on for an extended period then yes there is a potential to start storing fat. This is because your body feels it is losing to much fat, but this only occurs when someone has been doing it for an extended period. This is not going to occur in someone who is losing fluid since this is typically not an extended period of time. When having abdominal surgery, doctors may recommend a very high amount of weight loss to get rid of abdominal fat. This is done very rapidly and there is a specific diet to follow that many of us could never manage.
One thing I am at a loss on is where you get the idea that you are dehydrating and starving yourself. Plexus makes it very clear that you need a minimum of 8 glasses of water per day and they stress to eat a well balanced diet and exercise. They even give some helpful tips on eating healthy and what to do for exercise. If someone is starving themselves then they are not eating. That is their choice and is not at all recommended. Dehydration could theoretically occur if you don't drink enough, but again the company clearly states what to do.
Those that struggle with their weight will probably have to stay on Plexus Slim in order to maintain their weight, but they should not have to take the accelerator just the drink. This goes for any diet. You will always have to maintain it. The reason why many diets fail is because they are not practical to maintain.
Although a healthy diet and exercise is necessary to maintain a healthy weight, it is often not enough for those who are already overweight. This is where this product comes in. It is to be used in conjunction with a healthy diet and exercise. As far as it being to good to be true. That I'll leave up to you. When taken as recommended by the company it has great potential. Does it cure diseases. No, but unfortunately you will get people who claim it has cured many things. The real reason is because of the weight loss. Let's face it, the body can work a lot more efficiently when there's not so much fat and your own immune system can work more efficiently which may give the impression of curing diseases when really it's your own body doing the work.
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Kitkatsmack
I see you have a preconceived notion on Network Marketing. The ones at the top make all the money. I can assure you that is not the case. The money goes to those who work the hardest. Based on what you said about your friends, they may not make it money wise in the business. This has nothing to do with the fact that nobody can, this has to do with the way they promote the business. If they are pushy or seem really to not know what they are talking about, then that is why they won't make it. Network Marketing has more potential for the people lower down to make more money then the people higher up compared to a regular job. In a regular job the people at the top always make more and you also get a pyramid shape in this case. With Network Marketing the potential is there but you have to work to get it. You have to work to get people under you including retail customers. If you're not willing to put in the work, then no you will not achieve higher success than those above you. That's just how it works. The money you make is from the work you did. There's not a guaranteed wage like a regular job, no sick pay but if you build your business there's a heck of a lot more potential for a future then where the jobs sit today.
Again I will point out, the company does not say you don't have to change your diet and don't have to exercise. Unfortunately you get some who promote their own thing not endorsed by the company. You need to make your own decisions and know what's right. Just so you know, doctors do this too. The unfortunate thing is that some people take what their doctor says as gospel truth and don't look into it themselves.
Taste is completely subjective. I find it quite pleasant and easy to manage and I can throw up at the slightest distaste of food. I'm sorry if you didn't like the flavor, but the fruit they use to flavor is has antioxidant potential which can be quite beneficial. To me nasty is a very strong word, similar to using the word hate. I don't think you would have liked any flavor as going into it I don't think you were positive about it.
If you have questions and you're not getting them from your friends phone the company or find someone willing to answer them. There are many ways to get your answers. If you think the product is to good to be true because of your friends then that is very unfortunate. Everyone needs to take responsibility for their own health and not blame others. There is a lot on the internet, but unfortunately there is a lot of garbage. Watch your sources and get the whole story, not stop at one negative article and go from there. If you want to find negative stuff, you will find it. If you want to find positive articles there are lots of them. You will find what you are looking for.
I do however agree with your decision on your mother. Although the drink itself has no ties to worsening heart conditions, it would appear she is not really overweight and therefore not necessary. Some people have heart conditions because of genetics or age but are not overweight. That said, since the drink has antioxidant potential there is a chance it could be helpful. I doubt she would ever get off her medication but there is a potential for an overall improvement in health. Definitely not the accelerator, but I think you know that based on your post.
WhoDatFan563
You claim to have a Masters in Nutrition yet you feel calories in matches calories out. I can find plenty of research to disprove that fact. There is more to weight loss then calories. If it was that easy we wouldn't be seeing such a large increase in overweight people.
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Wow! Sounds like WhoDatMom has done her research! The fact she took the time look up a product that she has no intentions of using shows a lot of care and hard work. I wish I my relatives were as caring and concerned.
WhoDatFan563... Where exactly did you get your degree in nutrition? Calories in / calories out is old school and, as has already been said, there is research that shows this to be incorrect.
Thank-you, pharm403. Lots to read but all makes sense. I look forward to post 4 of 4.
I found this group while doing my own research on Plexus Slim. Based on what I've read so far, I am ready to give it a go. Natural products with some science behind them and 60 day money back guarantee. What have I got to lose except perhaps a few pounds?
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All I will say about Plexus Slim is that it gave me my life back. I wasn't a LOT over weight but wanted to lose a few lbs. I started taking Plexus in July 26, 2011 and on Oct 26, just a short three months later I had lost 32 lbs. Some say that is too much weight too fast,, Well its about 10 lbs a month which is about three lbs a week... After losing the weight I went to the Dr and after not having my Blood Pressure pills for 9 weeks my blood pressure was at 119/78, As for Plexus being to EXPENSIVE... The money I save from NOT snacking all through the day and at night more than pays for the product not to mention the flexability that I have and the easier it is for me to get around now that I am NOT carrying that EXTRA 30 lbs around. IF one doesn't think 30 lbs is a LOT .. get you three 10 lbs bags of sugar and walk around with it all day and see how much it is. People would be amazed how much better they feel and how losing a few unnessary lbs WILL improve their health.
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thanks for the heads up; if it sounds to good to be true, it is!! I would love a get slim quick BUT didn't get this way overnight and it is going to take some time to lose what i have gain over the years.
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Well I must say this post is interesting. :) I currently take Plexus for all the positive benefits. I only lose 1-2 lbs a week since obviously I need to eat healthier but I have been taking it since the beginning of Dec. I did have about a 2 weeks break to test it out and I noticed some stomach issues but since I have G.E.R.D and IBS its hard to tell if it actually the Plexus. The best thing about it for me though is that I have not had to take my metformin (Diabetes medicine) since I started Plexus. I almost had to use my meds during the break but decided to go back on Plexus because it also helped with my pain (from fibromayalgia), helps with swelling, and yes helps control my appetite (which is high due to anti-depressants). So basically the good outways the bad.
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Interesting reading all the postings here. Some bad and others good. Like with everything out there everyone will have their good and bad to say.
Anyways..............Just wanted to let you know that I recently started using Plexus Slim and the Accelerator and I feel better, more energy, and can see that the product actually does something.
I don't only use it to lose weight but I also sell it.
If anyone in here is interested in buying it visit my web site.
Also I can offer you a special "non advertised" price for a limited time as part of a promotion I am running.
http://www.pinkisforslimming.com/
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I know an even better weight loss method, with hardly any side effects.
DUCT TAPE. OVER THE MOUTH.
LMAO!
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HAHAHAHAHA!! No kidding right!!! I am however loving how this post keeps getting bumped by all these new profiles claiming it's amazing and safe drink!! I'm guessing it's the same person or people who sell it and it's a load of crap!! LOL
Quoting CountryLayne:
I know an even better weight loss method, with hardly any side effects.
DUCT TAPE. OVER THE MOUTH.
LMAO!