Informed Births, Empowered Women

louzannalady
Journeys (A getting to know you post)
August 30, 2012 at 6:38 PM

Let's hear about you! What are your experiences? What does having an informed birth mean to you? 


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  • Mrs.Andrews
    October 8, 2012 at 10:21 PM

    I have had one mostly natural birth. I agreed to have my water broken a few hours before birth, was given one dose of stadol, and was given an episiotomy without my consent. It was a pretty text book labor and delivery and a very good experience accept for the episiotomy. After that happened, I realized I needed to be more informed and make sure I had a practitioner that I could see eye to eye with.

    I really wanted to use a midwife but have lived in towns where there aren't any. So my second birth was also a hospital birth. I had GD and from 36 weeks on had to fight to avoid an induction. At 41 weeks my baby had a heart decel during an NST that set the alarms off. I was induced a few hours after that. It was a very hard experience for me but I was determined to do it wihout an epidural.

    So I've had some interesting experiences with my own births, and I've learned a lot in the last 4 years. I have recently realized that birth is my passion. I am self-training to become a doula and will attend my first birth in February. I'm VERY excited.

    My philosophy is that MOST pregnancies and births, if left to their own devices, will have a positive outcome and rarely is intervention really needed. I believe that small interventions lead to bigger ones and end up putting Mom and baby at more risk in the end than if they had been left alone. So, I strive to have as natural an experience as possible while only having limited resources to birth naturally. I also feel it is important to be near the right resources in case something does go wrong.

    So, informed birth to me means, learning all you can and making the choices that will keep you and your baby the safest given your individual circumstances. 

  • louzannalady
    October 8, 2012 at 10:53 PM

    I really, really love your definition of informed births! : ) Thank you for sharing your birthing experiences. I agree that smaller interventions turn into bigger ones! I had my membranes stripped at 39 weeks and some change, only to end up with a prematurely broken water. That opened the flood gate to me trying to prevent intervention after intervention for 56 hours. : ( I hope to become a doula once my kids are older. I am excited to hear how that birth turns out in Feb! : ) 

    Quoting Mrs.Andrews:

    I have had one mostly natural birth. I agreed to have my water broken a few hours before birth, was given one dose of stadol, and was given an episiotomy without my consent. It was a pretty text book labor and delivery and a very good experience accept for the episiotomy. After that happened, I realized I needed to be more informed and make sure I had a practitioner that I could see eye to eye with.

    I really wanted to use a midwife but have lived in towns where there aren't any. So my second birth was also a hospital birth. I had GD and from 36 weeks on had to fight to avoid an induction. At 41 weeks my baby had a heart decel during an NST that set the alarms off. I was induced a few hours after that. It was a very hard experience for me but I was determined to do it wihout an epidural.

    So I've had some interesting experiences with my own births, and I've learned a lot in the last 4 years. I have recently realized that birth is my passion. I am self-training to become a doula and will attend my first birth in February. I'm VERY excited.

    My philosophy is that MOST pregnancies and births, if left to their own devices, will have a positive outcome and rarely is intervention really needed. I believe that small interventions lead to bigger ones and end up putting Mom and baby at more risk in the end than if they had been left alone. So, I strive to have as natural an experience as possible while only having limited resources to birth naturally. I also feel it is important to be near the right resources in case something does go wrong.

    So, informed birth to me means, learning all you can and making the choices that will keep you and your baby the safest given your individual circumstances. 


  • louzannalady
    October 8, 2012 at 11:01 PM

    I feel so terrible, just getting back to you! I somehow missed that you quoted me and just saw this as I was leafing through the responses. How are you doing? Complications your first time around are not any higher or lower than anyone else. If you have Netflix, there is a group of documentaries on Instant Watch, called "More Business of Being Born" and they explain the differences very well on L & D, hospital birthing center and free-standing birthing center. A hospital birthing center still has the hospital feel, but it is generally easier to have a natural, limited intervention birth through one. I had my last birth in a hospital birthing center, in water,with midwives. I do highly recommend getting doula if you birth in a hospital birthing center, because it IS still a hospital, so they do treat birth very clinically and not like it is a 100% natural process- if that makes sense. Anyway, this info is late in getting to you. How are things for you, right now? 

    Quoting rfhsure:

     Thanks so much for all your advice! I'm so on the fence of home birth, but a lot of it is because my options now are matt's dads house, or my moms house. he's saving up to get an actual house for us and the baby which he's planning to do in the coming months. I'm thinking if he is able to do that I'll feel much more confident doing it at home because we'll actually have our own personal space. The midwife I'm interviewing is part of a midwives clinic associated with northwest hospital. the hospital has a birthing center in it, but I don't really know if that's the same thing or if that's just a better word for maternity ward? They have a birthing bar and tubs available. I'm wondering if because the midwives are associated with the hospital whether or not they're willing to attend home births, so i guess that's something i should ask on tuesday when I meet her. I've really been putting a lot of thought into doula's, I've heard so many great things about how helpful they are. and it's my first time so I could really use it! With a normal, uncomplicated pregnancy, is the likelihood of breech pregnancies and other complications as common? That's my biggest concern with homebirth is a need for transference. i really don't want to start this good experience and suddenly be surrounded by doctors. Hospitals freak me out as it is!

    Quoting louzannalady:

    Hi! So happy to see you here! : ) Congrats, again, on your pregnancy! : ) You are asking great questions and the reservations you feel are completely normal! 

    My first recommendation is that if you do birth in the hospital, hire a doula. They are so important! They reduce your risk of c-section, reduce the amount of drugs mom use, they reduce the likelihood of PPD, and increase the mom's chance of success in nursing. You can find a doula using this link, below. The location and such is to the left. http://www.dona.org/   You can also ask about student doulas, if the doula(s) in your area charge more than you are able to pay at this point, or many will barter for you to babysit or do yardwork and such. There was a study carried out by Dr. John Kennell, on the effect doulas had on the birthng process. He said, "If a doula were a drug, it would be unethical not to use it.” Here is the study he conducted. 

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1523-536X.2008.00221.x/abstract

    If you have a hospital birth, a great book to read is Henci Goer's "The Thinking Woman's Guide to a Better Birth". She outlines the most common interventions in hospital birth and looks at the merit of each practice through the eyes of reputable studies. I used this book as a jumping off point to create my birthing plan. : ) 

    You said birthng at home is not an option, right now. Are there any birthing centers in your area? You can search through google to find out, or a local would know. 

    As for getting your SO on board with an intervention-free or limted-intervention birth, I highly recommend you guys watch the movie "The Business of Being Born" on Netflix Instant Watch. It really helps him understand what you guys are up against in birthing in most hospitals in the US. 

    Oh and this might help him understand as well. Here is a link so you can try and look up your hospital's c-section rate. Explain that that percentage of births end in major surgery at that hospital and that you would feel safer either at a birthing center or having a doula if you birth there. 

    http://www.cesareanrates.com/hospital-level-cesarean-rates/


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    Quoting rfhsure:

     Hi, I'm Melissa. I'm 16 weeks along so far. It's my first baby and the amount of options out there are overwhelming! But I want to start figuring out my birthplan now because I want to get comfortable with it and prepare myself completely so I feel more comfortable when the time comes. i'm due beween february 20th and 27th. I started my doctor's visits with an OBGYN and in all honesty, I don't like her at all. She always rushes me through her office, doesn't address me by name, hasn't congratulated me and doesn't so much as ask how i'm doing when I come into her office. Our last ultrasound she didn't even turn the screen towards me so I could see the baby and I had to interrupt her saying goodbye to me 3 times just to ask her questions, because she didn't bother to ask me if I had any. This is my first child and this experience is very, very important to me. Obviously all children are, but I'm new to all this and I'm full of quesitons and my mind is like a sponge! My last visit with my OB inspired me to do what I originally thought about and pursue a midwife. I was interested in it in the very beginning but didn't know if my pregnancy was low risk and I thought a doctor would be more equipped to deal with it.

    The more I've learned the more I feel like a midwife is right for me. I'm going to meet her for the first time on Tuesday so I really hope that goes well! I am prepared for the intense amount of pain I'll be going through but I really want to stick to my guns and do it drug free. A lot of my friends have said that's crazy, and I feel like people keep trying to encourage me to get the epidural. I won't be in labor til February and people are already trying to tell me how I should give birth! My baby's dads sister used one and it feels like he keeps trying to give me ideas based on what she did. I like her but this isn't her birth. I am worried he might try to push me to get one when he sees me in pain, and I'm hoping he doesnt. I am young, and very healthy. so I don't see any reason why my body can't do what it was designed to do! I am wary of a home birth because it's just not the right environment. but I'm going to a hospital that supports birth plans, so I'm hoping that will be enough. I am very scared of the pain so I've been highly considering water birth. i know it can really help with the pain and it just seems like the most natural way to do it. Baby's underwater for 9 months so why not be born into it? I read louzannaladys story and really appreciated her comments on my post when I first considered it and am pleased that this group is here. I really want to learn everything I can about the birthing process and really develop a plan that's good for me. I'm a really petite girl so I worry about tearing and things, but I don't see why I should have to get an episiotimy or use an IV during my birth. I'm mostly worried about how hospitals seems to go out of their way to encourage and facilitate interventions. Any advice on how to deal with that? Or recommendations for birthing classes that might help me learn more techniques? Any and all advice is more than welcome!


     


  • Mrs.Andrews
    October 8, 2012 at 11:04 PM

    Do you know of any doulas in the group? I'm trying to just learn what I can on my own but it can be challenging. I hope that birth gives me a direction to go in for future training.

    Quoting louzannalady:

    I really, really love your definition of informed births! : ) Thank you for sharing your birthing experiences. I agree that smaller interventions turn into bigger ones! I had my membranes stripped at 39 weeks and some change, only to end up with a prematurely broken water. That opened the flood gate to me trying to prevent intervention after intervention for 56 hours. : ( I hope to become a doula once my kids are older. I am excited to hear how that birth turns out in Feb! : ) 

    Quoting Mrs.Andrews:

    I have had one mostly natural birth. I agreed to have my water broken a few hours before birth, was given one dose of stadol, and was given an episiotomy without my consent. It was a pretty text book labor and delivery and a very good experience accept for the episiotomy. After that happened, I realized I needed to be more informed and make sure I had a practitioner that I could see eye to eye with.

    I really wanted to use a midwife but have lived in towns where there aren't any. So my second birth was also a hospital birth. I had GD and from 36 weeks on had to fight to avoid an induction. At 41 weeks my baby had a heart decel during an NST that set the alarms off. I was induced a few hours after that. It was a very hard experience for me but I was determined to do it wihout an epidural.

    So I've had some interesting experiences with my own births, and I've learned a lot in the last 4 years. I have recently realized that birth is my passion. I am self-training to become a doula and will attend my first birth in February. I'm VERY excited.

    My philosophy is that MOST pregnancies and births, if left to their own devices, will have a positive outcome and rarely is intervention really needed. I believe that small interventions lead to bigger ones and end up putting Mom and baby at more risk in the end than if they had been left alone. So, I strive to have as natural an experience as possible while only having limited resources to birth naturally. I also feel it is important to be near the right resources in case something does go wrong.

    So, informed birth to me means, learning all you can and making the choices that will keep you and your baby the safest given your individual circumstances. 



  • SadieJames
    October 8, 2012 at 11:08 PM
    Need to add me when I get on a computer! Typing on my iPad sucks.
  • louzannalady
    October 8, 2012 at 11:15 PM

    There is a BEYOND amazing closed birthing group on Facebook. If you want to PM your name, I will vouch for you, so they let you. There are doulas, midwives, women like you and me that have learned the hard and easy ways and just love to learn about this! : )   *thinking* *thinking* There is a doula here... Err... I can't remember her name! She is awesome, though. And in the Pregnancy group and always has great insight.... Ohhh... Drat! 

    Quoting Mrs.Andrews:

    Do you know of any doulas in the group? I'm trying to just learn what I can on my own but it can be challenging. I hope that birth gives me a direction to go in for future training.

    Quoting louzannalady:

    I really, really love your definition of informed births! : ) Thank you for sharing your birthing experiences. I agree that smaller interventions turn into bigger ones! I had my membranes stripped at 39 weeks and some change, only to end up with a prematurely broken water. That opened the flood gate to me trying to prevent intervention after intervention for 56 hours. : ( I hope to become a doula once my kids are older. I am excited to hear how that birth turns out in Feb! : ) 

    Quoting Mrs.Andrews:

    I have had one mostly natural birth. I agreed to have my water broken a few hours before birth, was given one dose of stadol, and was given an episiotomy without my consent. It was a pretty text book labor and delivery and a very good experience accept for the episiotomy. After that happened, I realized I needed to be more informed and make sure I had a practitioner that I could see eye to eye with.

    I really wanted to use a midwife but have lived in towns where there aren't any. So my second birth was also a hospital birth. I had GD and from 36 weeks on had to fight to avoid an induction. At 41 weeks my baby had a heart decel during an NST that set the alarms off. I was induced a few hours after that. It was a very hard experience for me but I was determined to do it wihout an epidural.

    So I've had some interesting experiences with my own births, and I've learned a lot in the last 4 years. I have recently realized that birth is my passion. I am self-training to become a doula and will attend my first birth in February. I'm VERY excited.

    My philosophy is that MOST pregnancies and births, if left to their own devices, will have a positive outcome and rarely is intervention really needed. I believe that small interventions lead to bigger ones and end up putting Mom and baby at more risk in the end than if they had been left alone. So, I strive to have as natural an experience as possible while only having limited resources to birth naturally. I also feel it is important to be near the right resources in case something does go wrong.

    So, informed birth to me means, learning all you can and making the choices that will keep you and your baby the safest given your individual circumstances. 




  • louzannalady
    October 8, 2012 at 11:23 PM

    I know, doulala is a doula and there is one more... It's on the tip of my brain. I am thinking she starts with an "R".... Humm....

    Quoting Mrs.Andrews:

    Do you know of any doulas in the group? I'm trying to just learn what I can on my own but it can be challenging. I hope that birth gives me a direction to go in for future training.

    Quoting louzannalady:

    I really, really love your definition of informed births! : ) Thank you for sharing your birthing experiences. I agree that smaller interventions turn into bigger ones! I had my membranes stripped at 39 weeks and some change, only to end up with a prematurely broken water. That opened the flood gate to me trying to prevent intervention after intervention for 56 hours. : ( I hope to become a doula once my kids are older. I am excited to hear how that birth turns out in Feb! : ) 

    Quoting Mrs.Andrews:

    I have had one mostly natural birth. I agreed to have my water broken a few hours before birth, was given one dose of stadol, and was given an episiotomy without my consent. It was a pretty text book labor and delivery and a very good experience accept for the episiotomy. After that happened, I realized I needed to be more informed and make sure I had a practitioner that I could see eye to eye with.

    I really wanted to use a midwife but have lived in towns where there aren't any. So my second birth was also a hospital birth. I had GD and from 36 weeks on had to fight to avoid an induction. At 41 weeks my baby had a heart decel during an NST that set the alarms off. I was induced a few hours after that. It was a very hard experience for me but I was determined to do it wihout an epidural.

    So I've had some interesting experiences with my own births, and I've learned a lot in the last 4 years. I have recently realized that birth is my passion. I am self-training to become a doula and will attend my first birth in February. I'm VERY excited.

    My philosophy is that MOST pregnancies and births, if left to their own devices, will have a positive outcome and rarely is intervention really needed. I believe that small interventions lead to bigger ones and end up putting Mom and baby at more risk in the end than if they had been left alone. So, I strive to have as natural an experience as possible while only having limited resources to birth naturally. I also feel it is important to be near the right resources in case something does go wrong.

    So, informed birth to me means, learning all you can and making the choices that will keep you and your baby the safest given your individual circumstances. 




  • Mrs.Andrews
    October 9, 2012 at 2:03 AM

    Thank you! I will PM you. That would be great!

    Quoting louzannalady:

    There is a BEYOND amazing closed birthing group on Facebook. If you want to PM your name, I will vouch for you, so they let you. There are doulas, midwives, women like you and me that have learned the hard and easy ways and just love to learn about this! : )   *thinking* *thinking* There is a doula here... Err... I can't remember her name! She is awesome, though. And in the Pregnancy group and always has great insight.... Ohhh... Drat! 

    Quoting Mrs.Andrews:

    Do you know of any doulas in the group? I'm trying to just learn what I can on my own but it can be challenging. I hope that birth gives me a direction to go in for future training.

    Quoting louzannalady:

    I really, really love your definition of informed births! : ) Thank you for sharing your birthing experiences. I agree that smaller interventions turn into bigger ones! I had my membranes stripped at 39 weeks and some change, only to end up with a prematurely broken water. That opened the flood gate to me trying to prevent intervention after intervention for 56 hours. : ( I hope to become a doula once my kids are older. I am excited to hear how that birth turns out in Feb! : ) 

    Quoting Mrs.Andrews:

    I have had one mostly natural birth. I agreed to have my water broken a few hours before birth, was given one dose of stadol, and was given an episiotomy without my consent. It was a pretty text book labor and delivery and a very good experience accept for the episiotomy. After that happened, I realized I needed to be more informed and make sure I had a practitioner that I could see eye to eye with.

    I really wanted to use a midwife but have lived in towns where there aren't any. So my second birth was also a hospital birth. I had GD and from 36 weeks on had to fight to avoid an induction. At 41 weeks my baby had a heart decel during an NST that set the alarms off. I was induced a few hours after that. It was a very hard experience for me but I was determined to do it wihout an epidural.

    So I've had some interesting experiences with my own births, and I've learned a lot in the last 4 years. I have recently realized that birth is my passion. I am self-training to become a doula and will attend my first birth in February. I'm VERY excited.

    My philosophy is that MOST pregnancies and births, if left to their own devices, will have a positive outcome and rarely is intervention really needed. I believe that small interventions lead to bigger ones and end up putting Mom and baby at more risk in the end than if they had been left alone. So, I strive to have as natural an experience as possible while only having limited resources to birth naturally. I also feel it is important to be near the right resources in case something does go wrong.

    So, informed birth to me means, learning all you can and making the choices that will keep you and your baby the safest given your individual circumstances. 





  • MyIslandGirls
    October 10, 2012 at 11:58 AM

    I'm a Post Partum Doula in Training.. but i live in Canada so I'm not sure what kind of help I'd be since I prefer to be "on location" when helping clients.

    Well Let's see here... I've had 3 births so far. Each in a hospital.

    Birth #1  I was 18 years old... and clueless.I would NOT recommend getting pregnant at this age. It's just not a good idea. My pregnancy was pretty normal, no issues at all. I followed my OB's advice, not knowing any better. I did go into labour at 36 weeks and 6 days. My OB was not on call that night so i was given a random guy i never met before. I was soo scared. My dad was there with me, but he was just as scared as I was. My child's father never picked up the phone so he wasn't there for his baby's birth. My water broke when i rolled over in the middle of the night, i was able to get up and get on the toilet before i gushed everywhere (I apparently have strong vag muscles! lol) I thought i needed to pee.. but as soon as the fluid was gone I had a massive contraction that knocked me off the toilet at home. it took me 10 minutes to get off the toilet and walked down stairs to my father's room, then another 10 to wake him up. I was trying to be nice but in the end I just flipped on the light and told him that my water broke.  It was the dead on winter and our driveway went straight up. so after getting my winter coat and boots on during 3 minute contractions, my dad basically pushed me up our driveway to the car. We got in and i told him to hurry up! lol 10 minutes later we were in the L&D I was given a hot shower because i had back labour really bad. I LOVED IT. I watched as my little belly Sucked itself in and SHOVE my baby down. I had to push immediately. They got me on to a bed and told me to push. I pushed for 2 hours... I was the only one in active labour so i got the on Call OB just sitting at the end of my bed waiting.. lol my dad tried to lighten the mood, it wasn't working really. Finally my baby crowned. I pushed.. out came her head and sholders.. I pushed for the rest of her and she got stuck. He hips were wedged under my pelvic bone. it took me 3 more pushes to get her out. She was covered in Vernex and barely breathing. she was tiny, but the gave her a good rub on the back and she took her first big breath. Kaitlyn was born Jan22 2011 at 2:12 am weighing at 6 lbs 5 oz and was 18 inches long. I got a grumpy mat ward nurse.. she was rough with both me and my baby, I didn't know how to breastfed so she grabbed my breast and yanked it into my baby's mouth, she got frustrated when my baby would rather sleep then eat and finally just huffed off and left. My baby had jaundice after birth and was dopey from it. WE had to strip her down to her diaper to get her to wake up enough to consider nursing. We did end up having give her sugar water to get her interested in my breast.. but we did nurse eventually.


    I'll post my other 2 later.. right now i have to get going!! lol

  • louzannalady
    October 10, 2012 at 12:15 PM

    Thank you for your story! : )

    Quoting MyIslandGirls:

    I'm a Post Partum Doula in Training.. but i live in Canada so I'm not sure what kind of help I'd be since I prefer to be "on location" when helping clients.

    Well Let's see here... I've had 3 births so far. Each in a hospital.

    Birth #1  I was 18 years old... and clueless.I would NOT recommend getting pregnant at this age. It's just not a good idea. My pregnancy was pretty normal, no issues at all. I followed my OB's advice, not knowing any better. I did go into labour at 36 weeks and 6 days. My OB was not on call that night so i was given a random guy i never met before. I was soo scared. My dad was there with me, but he was just as scared as I was. My child's father never picked up the phone so he wasn't there for his baby's birth. My water broke when i rolled over in the middle of the night, i was able to get up and get on the toilet before i gushed everywhere (I apparently have strong vag muscles! lol) I thought i needed to pee.. but as soon as the fluid was gone I had a massive contraction that knocked me off the toilet at home. it took me 10 minutes to get off the toilet and walked down stairs to my father's room, then another 10 to wake him up. I was trying to be nice but in the end I just flipped on the light and told him that my water broke.  It was the dead on winter and our driveway went straight up. so after getting my winter coat and boots on during 3 minute contractions, my dad basically pushed me up our driveway to the car. We got in and i told him to hurry up! lol 10 minutes later we were in the L&D I was given a hot shower because i had back labour really bad. I LOVED IT. I watched as my little belly Sucked itself in and SHOVE my baby down. I had to push immediately. They got me on to a bed and told me to push. I pushed for 2 hours... I was the only one in active labour so i got the on Call OB just sitting at the end of my bed waiting.. lol my dad tried to lighten the mood, it wasn't working really. Finally my baby crowned. I pushed.. out came her head and sholders.. I pushed for the rest of her and she got stuck. He hips were wedged under my pelvic bone. it took me 3 more pushes to get her out. She was covered in Vernex and barely breathing. she was tiny, but the gave her a good rub on the back and she took her first big breath. Kaitlyn was born Jan22 2011 at 2:12 am weighing at 6 lbs 5 oz and was 18 inches long. I got a grumpy mat ward nurse.. she was rough with both me and my baby, I didn't know how to breastfed so she grabbed my breast and yanked it into my baby's mouth, she got frustrated when my baby would rather sleep then eat and finally just huffed off and left. My baby had jaundice after birth and was dopey from it. WE had to strip her down to her diaper to get her to wake up enough to consider nursing. We did end up having give her sugar water to get her interested in my breast.. but we did nurse eventually.


    I'll post my other 2 later.. right now i have to get going!! lol


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