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Upon Further Review: Mitt Romney May Have Cheated To Win The Debate
by _Kissy_
October 5, 2012 at 4:07 PM


Over the past day the game tape of the debate has been reviewed. While Mitt Romney still enjoys the afterglow of the debate, the lies and half truths he told are being dissected.

From tax policy to hiring teachers. From cracking down on Wall Street (and Sesame Street) to coverage for the uninsured. From Medicare to shipping jobs overseas the fact checkers have been very busy correcting the record and pointing out falsehoods.

Even Team Romney had to correct the candidate on health care immediately after the debate.

As I predicted earlier this week, Romney had an October Surprise planned for the President – new policy ideas. But I had no idea that Romney would just lie about everything he had said over the past year and a half.

As the President said, Mitt Romney’s bright new idea is: Never Mind!

But there was a moment in the debate that will be discussed in the days ahead that everyone missed until yesterday.

A review of the debate tape reveals that, apparently, Mitt Romney needed a cheat sheet to keep the lies straight.
The rules of the presidential debates are clear about not bringing outside notes and presidents and aspirants have followed the rule for decades.

Video of the first eleven seconds of the debate available on YouTube shows Mitt Romney reaching into his pocket at the moment he is out of view of those in front of him, he used the lectern as a shield, and removing what appears to be folded papers from his pocket.

We see this because the camera that was broadcasting was behind Romney. Those in the audience and the moderator may have been shielded from his sleight of hand, but not the viewers.

Romney then proceeds to unfold the item in front of him.

For those curious if it could have been some else, later video sheds some light on what Romney retrieves from his lectern.

After the Romney and Obama families chat post-debate the President walks off stage, leaving his notes behind for an aide, no doubt.

But not so for Romney. The Presidential challenger goes back to his lectern to retrieve his items. It is clear that the only thing that Romney takes is paper. Not a handkerchief. Not a white flag. Nothing but paper.

So the next question is: what is Mitt Romney’s explanation for the apparent cheating?

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2012/10/05/upon-further-review-mitt-romney-may-have-cheated-to-win-the-debate/ 

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/clip/4006759

Replies

  • horsesteelers
    October 5, 2012 at 4:31 PM

     Obama reads off of notes so why can't Romney? Obama was constantly looking down. Most of the time Romney was looking at Obama. Just saying.

  • mommy_of_2_kids
    October 5, 2012 at 4:34 PM

    Romney is so good at lying, it would not shock me if he cheated.

  • ba13ygrl1987
    October 5, 2012 at 6:12 PM
    Because they can't bring outside notes. They both are given blank paper and pencil to write notes during the debate of what the opponent said. What's not allowed is bringing already written notes with you, which is what Romney is being accused of here. Everyone wants to know what was written on that folded paper he pulled from his pocket. Anything written during the debate is fair game. Before the debate is cheating

    Quoting horsesteelers:

     Obama reads off of notes so why can't Romney? Obama was constantly looking down. Most of the time Romney was looking at Obama. Just saying.

  • johnny4ever
    October 5, 2012 at 8:39 PM

    sarcasm

  • DirtyHippyMama
    October 6, 2012 at 1:07 PM

    Why can't people just be happy that he did a great job and stop looking for issues with everything? 

  • struezel
    October 6, 2012 at 4:57 PM
    Pretty sneaky!
  • gsprofval
    October 6, 2012 at 7:28 PM

    Upon further reflection, Romney is NOT the one who cheated in the debate:

    LATEST DEBATE EXCUSE: ROMNEY DID NOT CHEAT BY USING SECRET NOTES

    Denial is often fingered as one of the first stages of grief, and on some liberal blogs, that appears to be precisely the reaction that is setting in with regard to Mitt Romney's debate performance this past Wednesday night. Having accused Romney of lying because he contradicted Obama administration talking points and attacked moderator Jim Lehrer for letting Romney control the debate, the Left is now claiming that Romney cheated during the debate.

    The source of their complaint is a brief moment during the debate where Romney is seen to put his hand in his pocket and pull something out - something that the Daily Kos suspects of being hidden notes.

    Mitt Romney Accused of Bringing Cheat Sheet to Debate By Liberal Blogs

    Photo Credit: Daily Kos

    From the diary posted on Kos's website today:

    Mitt takes something out of his pocket and tosses it on the podium.  It seems as if he maybe using his body to try and screen the movement.  It's very fast, the whole thing is over by 0:00:12.

    Yes it could be a hanky.  But it falls kind of heavy, and stays uniform in it's fold.  Plus it is flat.  I have never seen a man‘s hanky be so uniform and flat coming from a front pant's pocket.  Back pocket, yes, breast pocket in a jacket, yes.. but not the front pant pocket.

    He was also wearing make up and to wipe any sweat from his face with a hanky would have taken off his make up.  Plus remember that old saying "Never let them see you sweat?"  If he was seen to wipe sweat from his brow, the optics would have been very bad ("Obama makes him nervous, he can't stand up to him.")[...]

     

    I'm NOT saying it is crib/cheat notes .. but I am saying it's a possibility.
    It's also Mitt "I never found a loophole I didn't exploit" Romney, who may have committed a felony on his taxes.

    This unfalsifiable theory of malfeasance picked up steam for a little while on other blogs, such asDemocratic Underground and the Daily Beast, before Buzzfeed shot it down - -not only was the object definitely a handkerchief, but there was actual video evidence of Romney using it:

    But according to a Romney aide the object was simply a handkerchief, not an illicit list of zingers.

    "It's a handkerchief," the aide said simply in response to the post.

    Romney can be seen at another moment in the debate using the handkerchief.

    Mitt Romney Accused of Bringing Cheat Sheet to Debate By Liberal Blogs

    Photo Credit: Weaselzippers

    Buzzfeed has labeled this faux-controversy the "conspiracy theory of the day," and it's easy to see why. The obsession over the details of how the handkerchief folded, and which pocket Romney took it from show how thoroughly impossible to debunk it actually is, short of having a debate podium camera that could snap a picture of what Romney put down. However, given the amount of time Romney spent looking directly at President Obama, even when he (Romney) wasn't the one speaking, it's difficult to see how he would have used such a list, and even more dubious that he would have needed such a list.

  • mommyfrey83
    October 6, 2012 at 7:29 PM

    :/ would be nice to know what was really on the paper

  • mem82
    by mem82
    October 6, 2012 at 9:27 PM

    hmmm

  • mom2jessnky
    October 7, 2012 at 10:15 AM

    Can you really cheat at a debate?

    You can cheat on your taxes, and on a test, and on your spouse. But can you really cheat at a debate? This is like the group that said not putting your dorm room # was voter fraud.

    As Inigo in the Princess Bride would say 'You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means'

    Dictionaries Stat!

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