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Do you think Americans are dependent and looking for a handout or are we strong and responsible?
September 30, 2012 at 9:15 AM

Do you think Americans are dependent and looking for a handout as Romney said earlier, or do you agree with VP Biden about the strength and responsibility of the American people?

In Florida, Biden says he doesn't recognize Romney's America

By TAMARA LUSH - Associated Press

BidenVice President Joe Biden visits with patrons Julie Holcom, right, and her daughters Emily and Amanda at Mel's Diner in Fort Myers, Fla., Saturday, Sept. 29, 2012. Biden has been making his pitch to re-elect President Barack Obama in Florida. (AP Photo/The News-Press, ) Amanda Inscore — AP


Read more here: http://www.bradenton.com/2012/09/30/4219962/in-florida-biden-says-he-doesnt.html#storylink=cpy
FORT MYERS -- President Barack Obama had been on the job less than a week when a top economic adviser told him and Vice President Joe Biden that the country faced a trillion dollar deficit, Biden told a roomful of Florida supporters Saturday.

Obama replied, "But I haven't done anything yet," Biden recalled.

The mammoth deficit landed in Obama's lap, Biden said, because former President George W. Bush "put two wars on a credit card," and gave tax cuts to the wealthy.

Not long after getting the grim news about the deficit in 2009, the Obama White House said the country faced a long and painful financial recovery, even with major government intervention to stimulate the economy and save financial institutions.

The economy has been on voters' minds across the country, but especially in Fort Myers, located in a county that's suffered among the most foreclosures per capita in the country....

Biden also continued to hammer Romney on a leaked video in which Romney described 47 percent of Americans as people who pay no federal income tax and "believe that they are victims."

Biden said that Romney's running mate, Congressman Paul Ryan, also talked about similar themes in "Young Guns," the book he co-authored.

"When they talk about the culture of dependency, I don't recognize the country they're talking about," said Biden.

"The American people are so much better, so much stronger, take so much more responsibility than these guys give them credit for."

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  • maxswolfsuit
    Max
    September 30, 2012 at 9:59 AM

    I think lumping all Americans into one category is very naive. There are hard working Americans and there are some who rely on government handouts as a lifestyle choice. 

    While I agree that a portion of the population does in fact rely on a culture of dependence I think the number 47% shows a gross misunderstanding of the economy and the lifestyle of the average American. 


  • BRQ07
    by BRQ07
    September 30, 2012 at 10:03 AM
    i think we're mostly strong & hardworking. i know my family is! but i do see a LOT of people that feel entitled to things. i do think that its 47% of america? oh HECK NO!!!! i just think this small group who lives off the system stands out more than the hardworking group :(
  • GOBryan
    by GOBryan
    September 30, 2012 at 10:34 AM

    I think it depends on the individual. Some look for hand outs and others are strong and independent, then you have the in-betweens. 

  • sheri305
    September 30, 2012 at 11:28 AM


    Quoting maxswolfsuit:

    I think lumping all Americans into one category is very naive. There are hard working Americans and there are some who rely on government handouts as a lifestyle choice. 

    While I agree that a portion of the population does in fact rely on a culture of dependence I think the number 47% shows a gross misunderstanding of the economy and the lifestyle of the average American. 

     


  • Fairegirl33
    September 30, 2012 at 1:54 PM
    I think way too many people have entitlement issues... Too many people feel like "it's is some else job or responsibly"... And this has nothing to do with being American.

  • Dinimon
    by Dinimon
    September 30, 2012 at 2:07 PM
    This

    Quoting GOBryan:

    I think it depends on the individual. Some look for hand outs and others are strong and independent, then you have the in-betweens. 

  • Hsmom1966
    September 30, 2012 at 3:10 PM

    Defining strong Americans as the people in our society who do NOT receive welfare assistance or leech off the kindness of others....

     Yes, there are a lot of people living in America who do believe they are entitled to "live off of the government assistance system".  <-- Some of those interviewed openly admit that they, "have no interest in working for money as long as they can receive food stamps, money, housing, cell phones, and medical aid for free."  In my opinion that defines them as uneducated and opportunistic scum:  I say uneducated because they assume it is a 'freebie'....in all actuality nothing the government hands them is free....tax payers pay those so called Americans to stay in their state of mental delusion. 

    Yes, there are also a lot of Americans who are unemployed, living on one income per household who do not receive any government assistance, still paying taxes, and yet they manage to make ends meet.  Does this make them stronger than the leeches in our society?  In my opinion, yes.  The ones who do live life by being self reliant are the ones who should be praised for their hard work and ambition to be better than just another welfare recipient.  They are truly the strength and backbone of our society.  

    For those who are truly unable to be self sustaining, I gladly pay my share of taxes to help you out.  To those who are leeching....get over yourselves and get out.  Get off my dollar and go live in other countries who are already established with TOO much government:  socialism is NOT for everyone.  Just ask the majority of the immigrants who escaped their socialist environments for the freedoms of America.  They work hard for the freedom you are sucking on.  

    Weak or strong America....the current administration has not done a good job of representing the better side of our American culture and freedom exchange.  This country is divided culturally, morally, and economically and self imploding.  We as citizens have the unique opportunity to unite and stand together as "One nation under God", but how many citizens are willing to give up their freebie-entitlements to be a Strong American without being just another statistic or number on the list of handouts?   

  • jurnee14
    September 30, 2012 at 3:40 PM

    I dont really know anyone who is lazy and not hardworking. I thknk calling 47% of the nation dependant was awful. I know many people who do not pay federal income taxes, myself included, and they are anything but lazy. I work full time and have a part time job a few hrs a week, I dont make enough to pay federal income taxes, its all given back to me and i get an earnecd income credit. My mother and most of her freinds are retired and  collect social security. It was promised to them, its untaxable, and now they are being called dependant? Thats ludicrous. i do think that people are entiltled to healthcare, or at least affordable health care. No one should have to pay more than 1/2 their salary in healthcare and then still have huge copays and deductibles, then be told they are lazy or dependant when they cant afford those copays, etc. When Rombney was asked why he didnt pay more in taxes, he repnded that why should he pay more than he is legally required to. Well, why should anyone, if the tax laws give breaks for different things, kids, heatlhcare, daycare, why should any one pay more than they are legally required to. His comment was so awful, because it wasnt directed at hard working poeple, who may not pay federal income taxes, but still  pay inot medicare, social security, state and local taxes, sales tax, homeowners tax.  Yes we all know someone who is using the system and living off of public assistance, but I dont think thats the norm. I work with many elderly and disabled people and to basically call them leeches is terrible. I had been undecided till this comment, but to hear how he has basically written off half the country is inexcusable to me. 

  • SweetLuci
    September 30, 2012 at 10:03 PM

     This is so biased. If anyone saw the whole speech rather than just a clip of it they would understand what Romney meant...but then that would mean they'd have to think rather than just believe what they're told on mainstream media. There are lots of hardworking people that receive disability, social security,or work at low paying jobs and don't pay income taxes. Romney doesn't want their taxes to go up; he intends to improve the ecomomy which will help all. But the ones who are living on welfare and don't want to work, even though they are able, yes they are dependent and looking for a handout, and that needs to change. In the states that don't enforce a work or training mandate, as Obama has recently allowed them to do, the rolls have increased dramatically.

    What has Obama done to help low income people-well let's see-the unemployment rate has increased, thought he said he would lower it, the number of women unemployed or underemployed has increased, the price of everything has gone up-and this hurts the lower income people the most, and the cost of healthcare is up. Oh, and the women who work in his administration are paid less than men doing the same job-oh well, he talks a good story-it's only the actions that have him baffled.

  • nomadbrat83
    September 30, 2012 at 10:24 PM
    I agree

    Quoting Fairegirl33:

    I think way too many people have entitlement issues... Too many people feel like "it's is some else job or responsibly"... And this has nothing to do with being American.

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