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Public Schooling is a form of `Welfare'
October 6, 2012 at 10:30 PM

I don't personally care who qualifies for FS, and I don't know too much about it, either.  I do know that there is a lot of FS haters on this site whom find no good reason for anyone to ever receive any type of assistance. 

 It got me thinking..........

Public Schooling is a `freebie' too.  Sure. you can say you pay taxes, but those taxes we pay are apparently going to every `public' program in some way, shape or form. When you opt to send your child to a public school anywhere in this country than I'd say you pretty much gave up your right to bitch about families on PA because your child is receiving a `free education'.   I would think that most people would want more for their children than a public school education.  College is NOT the only form of edu that parents should be required to pony up their dollars for. 

(And, no, my children do not attend public school.)


  • MeAndTommyLee
    October 8, 2012 at 10:37 AM

    That is one of the biggest stretches I have ever heard. LOL

    Quoting miss_lisa:

    No, because your landlord still pays property tax with the rent you pay. You may not pay property taxes directly, but you still contribute to them.

    Quoting Anonymous:

    It is if you have no property.

    Quoting Mcelly:

    Property taxes pay for public school. It's not PA.

  • MeAndTommyLee
    October 8, 2012 at 10:42 AM

    Actually we have owned our house for many years and raised 7 children in it.  My husband has worked for the public school system for over 20 years and knows first-hand that the last place you'd want a child educated is IN the public school.  Granted, we seem to live in a shit place and have a crappy system, but this is our reality.  After reading some of these responses to this post, I wish we'd had packed up 20 years ago and lived someplace else for the sheer benefit of the education.


    Quoting Anonymous:

    If you owned a house you might understand, 

    Even if you rent you are basically paying the taxes for the home that is in that school district, just not directly.  If school was welfare then everyone would qaulify for free lunch too, DUH!!!

    Quoting MeAndTommyLee:

    Public school is free.  All you have to do is walk and register whether you own or rent, does not matter. 

    Quoting Dzyre1115:

     I don't know about you but there is nothing free about my school tax bill every year, it's 95% of the taxes on my homes!



  • Anonymous 34
    by Anonymous 34
    October 8, 2012 at 10:43 AM
    You are so right.
    Nobody has to pay for books, materials, sports, clubs, and field trips.
    Because we all live in a fantasy world.
  • MeAndTommyLee
    October 8, 2012 at 10:56 AM

    I would not allow my children to attend school after that either!  I had a similar experence when our dd attended first grade at a public school many years ago.  Some kid touching her and asking her to `breastfeed' him'.  I talked to the teacher, the principal, the classroom aide and was told that there was really nothing they could do because he was a `special ed' student.  He continued to touch her and one day she came and told me that he licked her face and was encouraging the other boys around him to do it.  She never went back to that school and we were financially able to have her attend the parochial school we were parishioners of.  Best decision we ever made as I had not on ounce of that nonsense all the years she attended.  I felt she was in a good place and she was safe.  I did not find myself worrying all day long about what was happening to her.  She attended an aftershool program which we pd $40 a wk for her to attend because I was working full-time.

    Quoting TaraLani:

    We are (temporarily, I hope) on FS, but I homeschool my kids. We use Florida Virtual School. It has nothing to do with school costs, transportation costs, or anything like that- it's the fact that our neighborhood school is DREADFUL! In K last year a little boy told my daughter he wanted to kiss her privates. Kindergarten! I was appalled. She had two great teachers, and they made sure that he didn't get near her for the rest of the school year (there were only about 4 weeks left at that point) but it doesn't change the fact that if she had been at home, she wouldn't have been exposed to something like that. With FLVS we have a teacher that we call and talk to regularly, they provide all of the materials and the course information and guides, and they do the testing themselves. I think that it is just a branch of public school, though, now that I think of it. We don't have to pay anything for it, and both my 5 year old and 6 year old are in it this year. Either way, both my husband and I work, our house is paid in full (we decided that we would use my inheritance from my dad dying last year as wisely as we could) and the only real payment besides utilities is the car, and that's because the one that is paid off has a million and 10 issues that would be cheaper than a loan on a (used!) car, but not up front. My husband drives for a living, so a reliable car is required. We only have ONE vehicle, though, no payments on an uneccessary vehicle. We have cell phones, but no house phone, and a means of communication is pretty much required these days. Obviously we have internet- it's required for the kids school, anyway. We don't recieve welfare, just FS, and I shop as frugaly as possible, clip coupons, plan menus based on store sales, and we eat as healthy as we can- tonight was pretty unhealthy for us and it was turkey burgers on wheat bread with baked beans and salad. Not everyone on FS is trying to take advantage of the system (I do realize that wasn't the original point, just got on a tangent and feel like finisheing it lol) and living beyond their means. We make ends meet- we COULD feed ourselves without the FS, but it would be CRAP food- veggies are skyrocketing along with gas and milk these days and most "cheap" food is crap food. That being said, yes the "system" has their hands ALL OVER public schools, including the ones with 40 kids in a classroom built for 26 AND the really nice ones in the gated communities, but it is RIGHT that we all have without having to apply for assistance- a free and public education.

  • MeAndTommyLee
    October 8, 2012 at 10:59 AM

    Obviously the disparity around the country is overwhelming on this topic.  We do not pay for anything in this school district whatsoever.  Field trips?  What's that?  We don't have such things because who will pay for it.....certainly not the parent(s) -- they can't even pay for their child's lunch.  80% of the school children are poor, come from single-family homes where no one works and simply lives off FS and PA. 

    Quoting Anonymous:

    You are so right.
    Nobody has to pay for books, materials, sports, clubs, and field trips.
    Because we all live in a fantasy world.

  • Icpjuggalette
    October 8, 2012 at 11:00 AM


  • MeAndTommyLee
    October 8, 2012 at 11:08 AM

    Crickets?  I think not.  Just had  a meal to cook, gardening to do, kids to play with, a husband to talk with and 2 of the grandchildren came to visit.

    Anyway.  I had no idea some school districts around the country require registration fees, have specific taxes earmarked as `school tax' etc.  Good to know.  I learned something.  In my city we have no such fees and you can register children at any time and received free breakfast, lunch and afterschool care. 

    Quoting miss_lisa:

    So crickets from the OP when it's pointe out that for the majority they do actually pay for public schooling via property taxes.

    Surprise surprise.

  • MeAndTommyLee
    October 8, 2012 at 11:15 AM

    Hardly, you do pay for stamps and any package you post.

    I'm speaking about schools that allow anyone WITHOUT a registration fee or have a `school tax'.  I have never heard of either of these, but apparently they do exist in many parts of this country.  It's no wonder my city has the worst public school system.

    Quoting Anonymous:

    If u look at it that way, I guess people who have thier mail delivered to thier house are using a form of "welfare". You must pay for a po box too right?

  • Anonymous 56
    by Anonymous 56
    October 8, 2012 at 1:02 PM

    Does anyone on here pay, on one property, that they live in, $3,000 to $5,000 a year on homeowner's taxes (sorry, rent does not count)?  That is the average price for one year of private school, per child.  I'd say the assistance received on public school tuition definitely counts as a form of government assistance.

  • Anonymous 73
    by Anonymous 73
    October 8, 2012 at 1:04 PM

    Public school is a socialist institution.

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