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It's Coffee Break time! Hot Topic: Shooting First Day of School
August 28, 2012 at 9:17 AM

Welcome to Mom to Mom's Tuesday Coffee Break!

As you may know there was a shooting in a Baltimore County school yesterday. As always there are different stories floating around out there.

Here are the main facts:

1. A student posted on his Facebook page just hours before school started "First day of school,
last day of my life. t(~_~t), f*** the world

2. That same student took a "big gun" into the school which was said to have been in parts
and put together just before the shooting.

3. One student was shot in the back (currently NOT considered a target).

4. A Guidance Counselor restrains him, other teachers help until an on-school Police Officer arrives.

5. The shooter is in custody and is cooperating with law enforcement.
The victim is in critical condition.

6. School is in session today with enhanced security.

Live streaming was on CBS Baltimore yesterday
Most current information: 8/28/12 11:55 am - here

1. What are your thoughts on this and all school shootings?

2. Do you feel your child(ren) are safe in school?

3. What do you feel is the best way to prevent these kinds of situations?

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  • babygirl3112005
    August 28, 2012 at 6:51 PM

    As a person who attended a school where a shooting occured it makes me very sad to hear about this. I have a 8 and 6 year old and I feel that they are very safe because I think that the schools in my community learned from what happened here 14 years ago.

  • JJDSilva
    August 28, 2012 at 6:53 PM
    You are a very good mom, but unfortunately, not all mothers are as caring and involved in their Childs daily life. My daughter is only 2 but I am on top of her everyday and know everything that happens and how she is feeling. Its part of being a parent, to care and become actively involved in your Childs life. Most shootings can be prevented unless there is some unknown underlying reason you really cant see. Still there are always signs I believe. Idk,, its just really sad. Bullying has taken a new ugly appearance. When I was in school kids would be bullied and theyd fight (fists only) and it was over. Now you have all these kids getting guns from God knows where and shooting other kids. Its a monstrosity of an violence epidemic!

    Quoting lruesch:

    I personally think that we as parents need to make sure our kids are ok , mentally every day!!! We have to make sure our kids are happy and that nothing is bothering them at school or at home and if there is make sure that they are comfortable talking to us about it I think all of thses shootings can and would have been prevented if some of the parents have paid attention to their kids back when my son was in 4th grade he told a teacher that he wanted to  die so the teacher brought my son to the office and the nurse did what was supposed to do she called 911 and they brought my son to the hospital and and the school called my mom since I was already in the hospital so my mom went to the hospital to meet my son and they had taken some blood from my son and by the ti me the crisis counselor got there he was all happy and giggling so they didn't see a reason for further treatment but I still see the depression in him everyday and I want him put on some kind of antdepressants but I can't find a doctor that takes his insurance!!! plus he is ADD so anyways I think that we as parents have to take care of our kids NO I am not saying that all of the shootings are the parents fault but I'd bet that it would help them!!!! Just a thought!!!!

  • uriahadel
    August 28, 2012 at 6:56 PM
    Horrible!!! Thank God my kids are homeschooled!!!
  • MamaGlitterBug
    August 28, 2012 at 6:57 PM
    If you look into MOST shootings, the person snaps after being bullied, often are mentally unstable and seems that NO ONE bothers helping them before they lose it. As a society we are failing the children by not stopping bullying in their early years and letting them "fend for themselves" far too often. We want change, it starts with us all. Wake up America and smell the coffee. Parents realize your kids aren't the perfect and innocent darlings. I see it far too often.
  • KiraJenLove
    August 28, 2012 at 7:00 PM
    this is why I'm glad I don't send my daughter to a public school. with all the crap they teach kids in public school these days, that there is no God who loves and cares for them, that they're just animals and their life has no inherent value, how do you expect kids to act? These teachings leave them without any hope or faith. What do you expect?
  • uriahadel
    August 28, 2012 at 7:00 PM
    Were you at the columbine high schoool?

    Quoting babygirl3112005:

    As a person who attended a school where a shooting occured it makes me very sad to hear about this. I have a 8 and 6 year old and I feel that they are very safe because I think that the schools in my community learned from what happened here 14 years ago.

  • babygirl3112005
    August 28, 2012 at 7:03 PM

    No I was at Thurston High School


    Quoting uriahadel:

    Were you at the columbine high schoool?

    Quoting babygirl3112005:

    As a person who attended a school where a shooting occured it makes me very sad to hear about this. I have a 8 and 6 year old and I feel that they are very safe because I think that the schools in my community learned from what happened here 14 years ago.

  • TylersToy
    August 28, 2012 at 7:06 PM

    This is so sad and doesn't seem as shocking as it should have been.  I'm 50+ and I can say that was just unheard of in my Middle School and High School days.  I don't honestly know where something went wrong but it went VERY WRONG.  I know we all have our opinions as far as punishment in school.  I can offer an opinion both as a past student who did get a whack on the behind in school and as the daughter of a now retired principal.  When someone acted out badly there were times they had to go to the princapal's office (my father while I was in Middle School)  and only for the most serious offenses would get a whack on their behind 1 for serious and 2 for unacceptable behavior.  When the whack was done they signed his paddle (which to this day he still has).  I have talked to several of these kids who are now grown and to this very day they still RESPECT and ADMIRE my dad.  My dad was also know as a trooper of the underdog,  He treated ALL his students EQUAL, didn't matter if you were the class clown. poorest kid in school, or the head jock if you did wrong you were all treated EQUAL.  I still hear about that from all those kids who I labeled above and they feel they were treated FAIRLY and that the principal (my dad) had NO FAVORITES.  They also said there was a little fear of him and there still is even today and my dad is 82.  To me that speaks VOLUMES!  I know there are many out there who don't feel that anyone has the RIGHT to paddle their children.  I used to think it was wrong but then I think back and I can't help but wonder now if those parents would feel the same now?  I mean speaking as a woman who did get a couple whacks I know I still af 50+ see my past teachers and still respect them and even though I didn't think much of them when I was in school I do now.  I also learned through the punishment at school that school was a place you went to and RESPECTED those there.  This generation (my son is 13) doesn't have any of that good old fashioned FEAR/RESPECT.  My son's generation knows "if they hit me I can call the cops" but then again that generation also feels it's okay to go into a school and shoot people. If anyone bullied when my dad was principal that was considered UNACCEPTABLE and they got a whack.  He also believed only in In School Suspension there was no way he was willing to give a kid any time off.  Unless they broke the law and went to jail their time was served in the conference room right next to his office and he would leave the door open and walk in and out as he pleased.  They didn't know when he was coming and he made sure they had plenty to do and made sure they did it.  Now a days that kind of treatment by most principals is unheard of.  That is the one constant difference I can find to explain why the shootings are happening.  If you get angry get a gun, if you get bullied get a gun it's crazy.  It just didn't happen during my generation because the good principals paid attention and held EVERYONE accountable.  So if we're wondering what is broken that's a good place to start.  I as a parent of kids and as a child of a spanking or school whack on my fanny for unaccetable behavior am beginning to long for those days again.  I'm no worse for wear because I got spanked.

    I will now post this question.....would a whack on the bottom be worth it to reduce the death of our children.  I say HECK YEAH!

  • TylersToy
    August 28, 2012 at 7:07 PM

    I'm so sorry for being so long winded.

  • kacmall
    by kacmall
    August 28, 2012 at 7:08 PM
    You folks that blame the shooter's parents for "not putting their gun away" are naive! There are ways around purchasing guns legally. In a city like Baltimore, guns are available on the streets.
    The situation is horrible an I hope the boy that was shot recovers quickly and completely!!

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