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The Art of Debate....
December 6, 2013 at 5:02 PM
I have been having school in the form of a debate with my 3 oldest and have seen some of their thinking process and what the personally believe. It is quite interesting! It has also shown me that we need to work on our skills as orators and our reactions to other people negative reactions to the way we lay out our own ideas and or beliefs. But overall, we have been learning SO much!

So, my question is this...Do you teach debating skills or do you use debating skills to utilize school lessons or ideas?


How do you feel about Debating?

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  • bluerooffarm
    December 7, 2013 at 10:11 AM

    We don't actually teach debate, but we debate a lot for fun.  I grew up debating with my father at the kitchen table, and our kids are doing the same now.  It has upped my game debating the side I disagree with sometimes!  My father played Devil's Advocate a lot when we were growing up and I am really appreciating how difficult it can be.  The kids have some pretty awesome ideas and really take to a challenge.  We only have 2 real rules in our house and we often have debates about adding more rules.  Since all rules can be boiled down to our 2 rules it's fun to watch them come to the conclusions that adding the rule is either superfluous OR will actually limit their freedoms.  It's fun to use debate to draw those conclusions out of them without just dictating or telling them straight out why we believe what we do.

  • Leissaintexas
    December 7, 2013 at 11:15 AM
    Blue roof, I grew up to he same way, there was ALWAYS a good political debate going at our dinner table. I enjoy a good debate and managed to have 3 highly opinionated children. Debating g seems to be our default method of communication lol. I never considered debate a skill to be learned as a life skill, but I'm curious to see if we could integrate it into a lesson. Thanks for the inspiration, kirbymom!
  • Dawn07
    by Dawn07
    December 7, 2013 at 11:48 AM
    I would like to be able to have my children learn how to debate and the proper etiquette of debating. I learned the hard way.
  • TidewaterClan
    December 7, 2013 at 12:00 PM
    We hold debates all the time but haven't done that formally yet. That's a great idea Sonja.

    I was on the debate team in high school. It's a great skill, not just the public speaking part, but being able to research & find facts to back up what you're saying. It's been handy many times when discussing things with dh, when I was working, and with one of my buddies who loves to get into political discussions, lol.

    It helps me not to take things too personal because I like hearing other people's ideas, and if I don't end up agreeing I've usually learned something at least. :)
  • kirbymom
    December 7, 2013 at 12:03 PM
    I grew up similarly. I loved a good debate upon which to either further my beliefs or learn new ways of thought.
    I don't really teach it either as a stand alone subject/lesson but we do make sure that the kids can debate an issue well. Both from a verbal viewpoint and a written viewpoint.
    Right now, my 16 and 14 and 12 yr olds and I are in the middle of a bunch of debates. We are discussing anti-matter, the different dimensions, quantum theory.


    Quoting bluerooffarm:

    We don't actually teach debate, but we debate a lot for fun.  I grew up debating with my father at the kitchen table, and our kids are doing the same now.  It has upped my game debating the side I disagree with sometimes!  My father played Devil's Advocate a lot when we were growing up and I am really appreciating how difficult it can be.  The kids have some pretty awesome ideas and really take to a challenge.  We only have 2 real rules in our house and we often have debates about adding more rules.  Since all rules can be boiled down to our 2 rules it's fun to watch them come to the conclusions that adding the rule is either superfluous OR will actually limit their freedoms.  It's fun to use debate to draw those conclusions out of them without just dictating or telling them straight out why we believe what we do.

  • kirbymom
    December 7, 2013 at 12:55 PM
    Debating seems to be our default method of communicating too! Lol :) it definitely brings up some interesting conversations though. :)
    I think it is important to know how to formulate one's thoughts quickly enough and to do it well enough to carry on intelligently with anyone , even with those who are great orators(sp?).


    Quoting Leissaintexas: Blue roof, I grew up to he same way, there was ALWAYS a good political debate going at our dinner table. I enjoy a good debate and managed to have 3 highly opinionated children. Debating g seems to be our default method of communication lol. I never considered debate a skill to be learned as a life skill, but I'm curious to see if we could integrate it into a lesson. Thanks for the inspiration, kirbymom!
  • kirbymom
    December 7, 2013 at 1:01 PM
    Aww.
    How did you learn? If you don't mind my asking?


    Quoting Dawn07: I would like to be able to have my children learn how to debate and the proper etiquette of debating. I learned the hard way.
  • kirbymom
    December 7, 2013 at 1:15 PM
    I wish I had had the opportunity to be on an actual team, myself. I think I could have learned so much more if I had. I also think it is helpful in so many areas of life and not just a skill in verbal speech.
    I love debating politics. And theology. And the Theory of science. And just being able to banter ideas back and forth in general. :)

    Quoting TidewaterClan: We hold debates all the time but haven't done that formally yet. That's a great idea Sonja.

    I was on the debate team in high school. It's a great skill, not just the public speaking part, but being able to research & find facts to back up what you're saying. It's been handy many times when discussing things with dh, when I was working, and with one of my buddies who loves to get into political discussions, lol.

    It helps me not to take things too personal because I like hearing other people's ideas, and if I don't end up agreeing I've usually learned something at least. :)
  • bluerooffarm
    December 7, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    Those are awesome topics!  We like to discuss the ethics research.  We  recently watched a documentary on Netflix (Alien Planet) about the probe we are planning to send to Darwin IV, leaving in 2014.  We've had some lively debates about the ethics of that space flight.  It was interesting the way my middle son questioned the portrayal of all the benign little beings they supposed we will find.  He's really pessimistic of it.  And his arguments are very valid.  It will take 42 years for the probe to get there and 6 years for the message to return.  (He is 6 BTW) And he wonders how much faster a smarter creature could travel than we do.  Is it possible to travel at the speed of light and if so, seconds after the message gets here to say there is a smarter being, the smarter being could be here too.  Yikes!  He is obsessed with this discussion and researching and thinking about the possibilities!  

    Quoting kirbymom: I grew up similarly. I loved a good debate upon which to either further my beliefs or learn new ways of thought.
    I don't really teach it either as a stand alone subject/lesson but we do make sure that the kids can debate an issue well. Both from a verbal viewpoint and a written viewpoint.
    Right now, my 16 and 14 and 12 yr olds and I are in the middle of a bunch of debates. We are discussing anti-matter, the different dimensions, quantum theory.


    Quoting bluerooffarm:

    We don't actually teach debate, but we debate a lot for fun.  I grew up debating with my father at the kitchen table, and our kids are doing the same now.  It has upped my game debating the side I disagree with sometimes!  My father played Devil's Advocate a lot when we were growing up and I am really appreciating how difficult it can be.  The kids have some pretty awesome ideas and really take to a challenge.  We only have 2 real rules in our house and we often have debates about adding more rules.  Since all rules can be boiled down to our 2 rules it's fun to watch them come to the conclusions that adding the rule is either superfluous OR will actually limit their freedoms.  It's fun to use debate to draw those conclusions out of them without just dictating or telling them straight out why we believe what we do.


  • Dawn07
    by Dawn07
    December 7, 2013 at 3:12 PM
    I went onto debate forums a lot.

    Quoting kirbymom: Aww.

    How did you learn? If you don't mind my asking?





    Quoting Dawn07: I would like to be able to have my children learn how to debate and the proper etiquette of debating. I learned the hard way.

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