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MorningValley
Have you signed the petition?
April 5, 2013 at 12:59 PM
I haven't decided if I am or not just because I haven't read ANY of the information on what exactly is going on in this case. But most likely I will. http://www.hslda.org/legal/cases/romeike.asp

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  • bluerooffarm
    April 5, 2013 at 1:04 PM

     Absolutely not.  I disagree with the entire case.

  • MorningValley
    April 5, 2013 at 1:07 PM
    could you elaborate? I have no idea what is going on in it so what exactly about it do YOU disagree with? Thank you!
    Quoting bluerooffarm:

     Absolutely not.  I disagree with the entire case.

  • katinahat
    April 5, 2013 at 1:10 PM

    German Family Who Fled to U.S. to Homeschool Children Appeal Deportation Order

    On April 23, 2013, the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals will hear arguments in the case of Romeike v. Holder, where the family will attempt to have the deportation order made against them set aside. While the Romeikes had originally been granted asylum in the United States, on the grounds Germany prevented them from homeschooling their children, that decision was overturned by a panel of the Board of Immigration Appeals.

    Homeschooling is Illegal in Germany

    German parents have not been able to legally homeschool their children since the practice was banned by the Nazis in 1938. The purpose of the ban was to force children to be indoctrinated by schools controlled by Hitler and the Third Reich.

    After that time, the ban has been upheld by the Supreme Court of Germany. According to the court, “preventing homeschooling was to counteract the development of religious and philosophically motivated parallel societies.”

    Uwe and Hannelore Romeike are evangelical Christians. In 2006, they took their five children out of state-run schools and homeschooled them. The couple claimed their kids were being taught things that went against the family’s religious beliefs. German law allows for fines and imprisonment to be imposed on parents who do not send their children to state-run school. Eventually, the Romeikes racked up fines of approximately $9,000. The state also threatened to take the children away from the Romeikes if they did not send them back to school.

    In 2008, the family fled Germany and arrived in the United States where they made claims for asylum.

    http://www.decodedscience.com/german-family-who-fled-to-u-s-to-homeschool-children-appeal-deportation-order/28159

  • katinahat
    April 5, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    If they're here illegally, then they're here illegally. Have they applied for citizenship since they have been here? They've had 5 years to apply for green cards, but they haven't acquired them?

  • bluerooffarm
    April 5, 2013 at 1:16 PM

     The family knew that homeschooling was illegal in their home country (Germany), but did it anyway (which doesn't bother me).  They were caught and the courts came to escort their kids to the public school.  Instead of fighting in their own country and instead of moving here and applying for a visa or whatever, they instead came here and filed for amnesty.  This places our country in the middle.  Germany is a sovereign nation.  I would be extremely angry if Germany butted into a debate that was going on here.  Say a gay couple who wanted to marry would go to Germany and ask for asylum.  If Germany gave it, they would be saying (politically) that our laws were wrong.  I agree with asylum if someone is being physically hurt or would be killed for their beliefs, but I just don't believe that this case escalates to that.  Not to mention, they could have legally immigrated here, they didn't need to file for asylum.  It troubles me.  And it feels a bit as if the HSDLA is inserting itself into a situation they shouldn't.  There are problems here in our system.  If they want a branch in Germany, I say go for it, but don't create an international incident.

    Quoting MorningValley:

    could you elaborate? I have no idea what is going on in it so what exactly about it do YOU disagree with? Thank you!
    Quoting bluerooffarm:

     Absolutely not.  I disagree with the entire case.

     

  • sha_lyn68
    April 5, 2013 at 1:20 PM


    Quoting bluerooffarm:

     Absolutely not.  I disagree with the entire case.

    you rock

  • maggiemom2000
    April 5, 2013 at 4:01 PM

    I agree. In my eyes this case has everything to do with immigration laws and amnesty laws and nothing to do with homeschooling in the US.

    Quoting bluerooffarm:

     The family knew that homeschooling was illegal in their home country (Germany), but did it anyway (which doesn't bother me).  They were caught and the courts came to escort their kids to the public school.  Instead of fighting in their own country and instead of moving here and applying for a visa or whatever, they instead came here and filed for amnesty.  This places our country in the middle.  Germany is a sovereign nation.  I would be extremely angry if Germany butted into a debate that was going on here.  Say a gay couple who wanted to marry would go to Germany and ask for asylum.  If Germany gave it, they would be saying (politically) that our laws were wrong.  I agree with asylum if someone is being physically hurt or would be killed for their beliefs, but I just don't believe that this case escalates to that.  Not to mention, they could have legally immigrated here, they didn't need to file for asylum.  It troubles me.  And it feels a bit as if the HSDLA is inserting itself into a situation they shouldn't.  There are problems here in our system.  If they want a branch in Germany, I say go for it, but don't create an international incident.

    Quoting MorningValley:

    could you elaborate? I have no idea what is going on in it so what exactly about it do YOU disagree with? Thank you!
    Quoting bluerooffarm:

     Absolutely not.  I disagree with the entire case.

     


  • jen2150
    by jen2150
    April 5, 2013 at 5:23 PM
    I haven't read about the case too much. I consider not being able to homeschool a travesty. German school system is very harmful to some children. If you ever read what Albert Einstein said about German schools you will know what I mean. Obviously the US can't take in everyone but it still deserves a fair hearing. I can't imagine living in a country where most of my rights have been taken away.
  • AutymsMommy
    April 5, 2013 at 5:37 PM


    Many places consider our laws (here) to be a travesty. Does that give them the right to stick their noses in it?

    Quoting jen2150:

    I haven't read about the case too much. I consider not being able to homeschool a travesty. German school system is very harmful to some children. If you ever read what Albert Einstein said about German schools you will know what I mean. Obviously the US can't take in everyone but it still deserves a fair hearing. I can't imagine living in a country where most of my rights have been taken away.



  • jen2150
    by jen2150
    April 5, 2013 at 5:42 PM
    What laws are you referring to? There are many laws here that are a travesty. If you have an unfair law it deserves all the attention it is getting.
    Quoting AutymsMommy:


    Many places consider our laws (here) to be a travesty. Does that give them the right to stick their noses in it?

    Quoting jen2150:

    I haven't read about the case too much. I consider not being able to homeschool a travesty. German school system is very harmful to some children. If you ever read what Albert Einstein said about German schools you will know what I mean. Obviously the US can't take in everyone but it still deserves a fair hearing. I can't imagine living in a country where most of my rights have been taken away.




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