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SURPRISE INVESTIGATIONS AIMED AT HOMESCHOOLERS
by Lisa009
February 8, 2013 at 11:32 PM

scary stuff, call your reps!

http://www.wnd.com/2013/02/surprise-investigations-aimed-at-homeschoolers/

Connecticut cites need for 'confidential behavioral health assessment'

Michael F. Haverluck

In what critics are seeing as an ultimate power grab, state officials in Connecticut are pushing forward a bill to require state investigations of children like never before – calling for a “confidential behavioral health assessment” of every public school student in grades 6, 8, 10 and 12, and every homeschool student at ages 12, 14 and 17.

The proposed Bill 374 is being described as the ultimate home invasion.

“It’s outrageous that state officials could come into private homes and potentially remove children if they are assessed as a threat as a result of the investigation,” Home School Legal Defense Association Senior Counsel Dee Black told WND in an interview.

“Regardless of what state officials claim, I don’t believe the results [of the investigations] will be held confidential.”

Black, who provides legal assistance and advice for HSLDA members in what is ironically nicknamed the “Constitution State,” sees this proposed measure as anything but constitutional.

And when asked if the psychological tests given by the social services hands the state too much unchecked power – enabling government officials to seize and tag children as mentally unfit or maladjusted – Black answered definitively.

“No question about it,” asserted the Memphis State University School of Law graduate. “I don’t think people who live in a free society should be forced to give into mental evaluations of their children.”

He contends such intrusions are both unwarranted and unconscionable.

“Proposed Bill 374 would essentially authorize the state to conduct regular social services investigations of homeschooling families without any basis to do so,” asserts Black, who earned a Master of Laws degree at Georgetown University Law Center. “This outrageous legislative proposal must be stopped in its tracks before it gains any momentum.”

The key motivation behind such a bill including homeschoolers?

“The alleged [Sandy Hook] shooter was allegedly homeschooled for a while, but I’m not sure if it could have anything to do with it,” said Black, who has educated all four of his children at home with his wife. “The bill only covers homeschool and public school students – not conventional private school students. The heightened sensitivity in Connecticut about safety in schools could certainly be a factor [behind the bill] … trying to identify threats before they become a tragedy.”

And just what takes place during these in investigations?

“According to the Connecticut Behavioral Health Partnership, a state organization made up of the Department of Children and Families, Department of Social Services, Department of Mental Health and Addiction Services, and others, a behavioral health assessment is quite comprehensive and invasive,” reports Black, who’s been practicing law for 36 years.

“It includes ‘a review of physical and mental health, intelligence, school performance, employment, level of function in different domains including family situation, and behavior in the community.’”

Putting things into perspective, Black warns that parents could see social services following their children around their neighborhoods, observing them interacting at home with their families, showing up at their work, inspecting their classroom performance, administering IQ tests, psychologically analyzing them and physically examining their bodies.

When would students be subjected to all of this?

“Proposed Bill 374, filed in the Connecticut General Assembly, would require all homeschooled children ages 12, 14, and 17 to undergo a behavioral health assessment,” said Black, who has served with HSLDA as senior counsel for nearly two decades. “These assessments would be conducted by an unspecified health care provider and would be conducted even though there was no indication whatsoever that these children had a behavioral problem.”

And Black warns that the results might not be as private as the state claims.

“The bill states that the results of the assessments are to be disclosed only to the child’s parent or guardian, but that the health care provider must submit a form to the State Board of Education verifying that the child has received the assessment,” he said.

He urges homeschoolers and any Americans concerned about the violation of children’s constitutional rights to act now.

“Immediately contact members of the committee and express … opposition to this unwarranted invasion of family privacy,” Black said. “This legislation is sponsored by Sen. Toni Nathaniel Harp (10th Dist.) and Rep. Toni E. Walker (93rd Dist.), [and] the bill is presently in the Public Health Committee.”


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Replies

  • Christie1952
    February 11, 2013 at 1:58 AM

    Wow, that is terrible! However, Child Welfare in Oregon can do a school or home visit if they think something is wrong and they do not have to state what the problem is. I would look into a Lawyer if I were you!

  • Rust.n.Gears
    February 11, 2013 at 6:57 AM

    This is all over my Facebook groups now. My friends are terrified - especially those with autistic children and others with special needs. I live right on CT line. I mean half a mile. I am so glad we chose to live in MA. This is not good.

  • tuffymama
    February 11, 2013 at 8:26 AM
    Quoting mem82:



    Sorry, but I disagree with this. It takes no extrapolation whatsoever to realize they will not target HSers directly, and so must lump PSers in with it. You know the SPIRIT if the law. Surely you must. No one is that naive. This IS aimed at breaking down the rights of HSers through the back door and one little chip at a time. If you want your child psychologically evaluated by the state at their discretion, why do you even HS? This is something very like Orwell, or Rand. Ever see the movie Brazil? Turn it on homeschool. Ugh. Not my idea of a FREE COUNTRY.
  • mem82
    by mem82
    February 11, 2013 at 9:51 AM
    Honestly, just because I am not paranoid that the government is going to swoop in and steal my child doesn't make me naive and you insult me to imply otherwise. Just because my opinion differs does not mean that I simply don't understand. Worst and most insulting way to argue a point ever.

    Quoting tuffymama:

    Quoting mem82:




    Sorry, but I disagree with this. It takes no extrapolation whatsoever to realize they will not target HSers directly, and so must lump PSers in with it. You know the SPIRIT if the law. Surely you must. No one is that naive. This IS aimed at breaking down the rights of HSers through the back door and one little chip at a time. If you want your child psychologically evaluated by the state at their discretion, why do you even HS? This is something very like Orwell, or Rand. Ever see the movie Brazil? Turn it on homeschool. Ugh. Not my idea of a FREE COUNTRY.
  • Boobah
    by Boobah
    February 11, 2013 at 10:40 AM
    Wow, what a crock
  • tuffymama
    February 11, 2013 at 1:35 PM
    Quoting mem82:




    I did not call you stupid, or bad, or ugly. Your implication that I am paranoid is far more offensive. I didn't come here to argue, and I do not feel I was insulting. I regret that you took it that way. I know much of what is read online that disagrees with one's beliefs can often be construed as hostile and insulting. That isn't the case here. Again, it is regrettable that you chose to read it through that particular filter. However, that was not my intention so I must excuse myself from apologizing, as I did nothing wrong here. Further, considering I know you are coming from a place of hurt from perceived insult, I require no apology for your rude implication and conviction of MY mental state.

    Besides, it isn't paranoia if the government is actively pursuing abolition of all citizens' rights from every turn. Period.
  • mem82
    by mem82
    February 11, 2013 at 1:44 PM

       I said nothing about you calling me stupid, bad, or ugly. I said you were calling me naive which I found insulting. I haven't really even given my full opinion on the bill. People are making assumptions based on what they THINK my opinion on it would be. I am simply disagreeing with people that assume this bill is JUST trying to get homeschoolers by the short hairs...which I do believe is paranoid.I have no plans to apologize for saying that because it is simply a personal opinion. *shrug* It's no more insulting to say one is paranoid of the government than to say one is too naive to understand a bill or it's implications.

    Quoting tuffymama:

    Quoting mem82:




    I did not call you stupid, or bad, or ugly. Your implication that I am paranoid is far more offensive. I didn't come here to argue, and I do not feel I was insulting. I regret that you took it that way. I know much of what is read online that disagrees with one's beliefs can often be construed as hostile and insulting. That isn't the case here. Again, it is regrettable that you chose to read it through that particular filter. However, that was not my intention so I must excuse myself from apologizing, as I did nothing wrong here. Further, considering I know you are coming from a place of hurt from perceived insult, I require no apology for your rude implication and conviction of MY mental state.

    Besides, it isn't paranoia if the government is actively pursuing abolition of all citizens' rights from every turn. Period.


  • tuffymama
    February 11, 2013 at 2:45 PM
    Quoting mem82:

    Can't believe I have to explain this, but what I meant by saying that I wasn't calling you stupid, bad, or ugly is, if I "called" you anything, and I did NOT, it was naive. Take the 1990s implication of naïveté out of it and realize that NAIVE is not an insult. A worse term is ignorant, and that is not even an insult. Second, I said IF anyone cannot decipher the spirit of the law, that is naive. Some people CHOOSE to take insult at every turn, and even look for it, then get more upset when the "offending party" declines to become entangled in the old song and dance. I can do nothing about what you choose to believe or infer from what I said. Nothing. Have a nice day.
  • kirbymom
    February 11, 2013 at 6:01 PM

    Okay. I see what you are saying. I will go even further and agree with you in that there shouldn't be a *witch* hunt with out a good enough reason behind it.  :) 

    Quoting mem82:

    I am not saying whether or not I agree with the bill. *shrug* I'm saying that the title of the post and all the posts like this are misleading because this is not an attack on JUST homeschooling. This is touching every child in the state. This isn't aimed at us. The only people that are focusing on the fact that the kid was once homeschooled are homeschoolers themselves. I agree everyone should be on their toes when it comes to new bills being proposed but we can't start calling witch hunt for no reason. 8)

    Quoting kirbymom:

    Let me ask you a question mem, if I may?  

    Do you think that this bill would pass at all or even one inch, if it were solely intended for homeschoolers?

    You know as well as I do that if the system could control homeschooling they would do it in a heartbeat. So, their only way of getting at them is to lump them with the public system to make it look as innocently as possible.  

    Quoting mem82:

    This doesn't seemed aimed at homeschoolers. It would be if they were asking only homeschoolers to do it.




  • LovemyQ
    by LovemyQ
    February 12, 2013 at 3:11 PM

    Same thing in MI. 

    Quoting KickButtMama:

    For HS'ers here in CT, we have zero testing at present. 

    Quoting elizabooks:

    Wait a moment. Don't they already do those? I remember the yearly IQtests, ink blots and mental moral logic tests given in the public schools from 4th through 8th grade. The results determined what classes we were placed in and whatschools we could attend. When did they stop doing this?



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